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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Felipe Franciosi <felipe@nutanix.com>
Cc: "Harris, James R" <james.r.harris@intel.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Liu, Changpeng" <changpeng.liu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] virtio: fix IO request length in virtio SCSI/block
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:16:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171220061340-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5E82066E-45E4-4627-8EB5-F995FFCB1ADF@nutanix.com>

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 07:35:48PM +0000, Felipe Franciosi wrote:
> >> CCed Felipe (Nutanix) and Jim (SPDK) in case they have comments.
> > 
> > SPDK vhost-user targets only expect max 128 segments.  They also pre-allocate I/O task structures when QEMU connects to the vhost-user device.
> > 
> > Supporting up to 1022 segments would result in significantly higher memory usage, reduction in I/O queue depth processed by the vhost-user target, or having to dynamically allocate I/O task structures - none of which are ideal.
> > 
> > What if this was just bumped from 126 to 128?  I guess I’m trying to understand the level of guest and host I/O performance that is gained with this patch.  One I/O per 512KB vs. one I/O per 4MB - we are still only talking about a few hundred IO/s difference.
> 
> SeaBIOS also makes the assumption that the queue size is not bigger than 128 elements.
> https://review.coreboot.org/cgit/seabios.git/tree/src/hw/virtio-ring.h#n23

And what happens if it's bigger? Looks like a bug to me.


> Perhaps a better approach is to make the value configurable (ie. add the "max_segments" property), but set the default to 128-2. In addition to what Jim pointed out, I think there may be other legacy front end drivers which can assume the ring will be at most 128 entries in size.
> 
> With that, hypervisors can choose to bump the value higher if it's known to be safe for their host+guest configuration.
> 
> Cheers,
> Felipe

For 1.0 guests can just downgrade to 128 if they want to save memory.
So it might make sense to gate this change on 1.0 enabled by guest.


> > 
> > -Jim
> > 
> > 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-20  4:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-15 15:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] virtio: fix IO request length in virtio SCSI/block Denis V. Lunev
2017-12-15 15:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] pc, q35: add 2.12 machine types Denis V. Lunev
2017-12-18 13:54   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-12-15 15:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] virtio: fix IO request length in virtio SCSI/block Denis V. Lunev
2017-12-18 13:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-18 16:16     ` Harris, James R
2017-12-18 19:35       ` Felipe Franciosi
2017-12-18 19:42         ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-12-19  8:57           ` Roman Kagan
2017-12-19  9:59             ` Liu, Changpeng
2017-12-20  4:16         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-12-18 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-19 12:45 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-12-20  4:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20  4:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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