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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: wei.w.wang@intel.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mst@redhat.com, mhocko@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mawilcox@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v20 3/7 RESEND] xbitmap: add more operations
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 06:58:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171223145859.GA24464@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201712232333.BAH82874.FFFtOMHSLVQOOJ@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 11:33:45PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 11:59:54AM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > +	bit %= IDA_BITMAP_BITS;
> > > > +	radix_tree_iter_init(&iter, index);
> > > > +	slot = idr_get_free_cmn(root, &iter, GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN, index);
> > > > +	if (IS_ERR(slot)) {
> > > > +		if (slot == ERR_PTR(-ENOSPC))
> > > > +			return 0;	/* Already set */
> > > 
> > > Why already set? I guess something is there, but is it guaranteed that
> > > there is a bitmap with the "bit" set?
> > 
> > Yes.  For radix trees tagged with IDR_RT_MARKER, newly created slots
> > have the IDR_FREE tag set.  We only clear the IDR_FREE tag once the
> > bitmap is full.  So if we try to find a free slot and the tag is clear,
> > we know the bitmap is full.
> > 
> 
> OK. But does using IDR_FREE tag have more benefit than cost?
> You are doing
> 
> 	if (bitmap_full(bitmap->bitmap, IDA_BITMAP_BITS))
> 		radix_tree_iter_tag_clear(root, &iter, IDR_FREE);
> 
> for each xb_set_bit() call. How likely do we hit ERR_PTR(-ENOSPC) path?
> Isn't removing both bitmap_full() and ERR_PTR(-ENOSPC) better?

You're assuming that the purpose of using IDR_FREE is to save xb_set_bit
from walking the tree unnecessarily.  It isn't; that's just a happy
side-effect.  Its main purpose is to make xb_find_zero() efficient.  If
we have large ranges of set bits, xb_find_zero() will be able to skip them.

> > This is just a lazy test.  We "know" that the bits in the range 1024-2047
> > will all land in the same bitmap, so there's no need to preload for each
> > of them.
> 
> Testcases also serves as how to use that API.
> Assuming such thing leads to incorrect usage.

Sure.  Would you like to submit a patch?

> > > If bitmap == NULL at this_cpu_xchg(ida_bitmap, NULL) is allowed,
> > > you can use kzalloc(sizeof(*bitmap), GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN)
> > > and get rid of xb_preload()/xb_preload_end().
> > 
> > No, we can't.  GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN won't try very hard to allocate
> > memory.  There's no reason to fail the call if the user is in a context
> > where they can try harder to free memory.
> 
> But there is no reason to use GFP_NOWAIT at idr_get_free_cmn() if it is
> safe to use GFP_KERNEL. If we don't require xb_preload() which forces
> idr_get_free_cmn() to use GFP_NOWAIT due to possibility of preemption
> disabled by xb_preload(), we can allow passing gfp flags to xb_set_bit().

The assumption is that the user has done:

	xb_preload(GFP_KERNEL);
	spin_lock(my_lock);
	xb_set_bit(xb, bit);
	spin_unlock(my_lock);
	xb_preload_end();

This is not the world's greatest interface.  Once I have the XArray
finished, we'll be able to ditch the external spinlock and the preload
interface and be able to call:

	xb_set_bit(xb, bit, GFP_KERNEL);

> > xb_preload also preloads radix tree nodes.
> 
> But it after all forces idr_get_free_cmn() to use GFP_NOWAIT, doesn't it?

I think you don't understand how the radix tree allocates nodes.  preloading
means that it will be able to access the nodes which were allocated earlier.

> Speak of initial user (i.e. virtio-balloon), xb_preload() won't be able to
> use GFP_KERNEL in order to avoid OOM lockup. Therefore, I don't see
> advantages with using xb_preload(). If xb_set_bit() receives gfp flags,
> the caller can pass GFP_KERNEL if it is safe to use GFP_KERNEL.

I haven't reviewed how virtio-balloon is using the interfaces.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-23 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-21  2:30 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v20 3/7 RESEND] xbitmap: add more operations Wei Wang
2017-12-21 14:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-21 14:37   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-12-22  8:45     ` Wei Wang
2017-12-21 21:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-22  8:49   ` Wei Wang
2018-01-02 14:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-01-03  8:56       ` Wei Wang
2017-12-23  2:59   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-12-23  3:29     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-23 14:33       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-12-23 14:58         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2017-12-24  7:31         ` Wei Wang

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