From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: dgilbert@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-web PATCH] refine spectre blog post
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:38:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180105103843.30526-1-pbonzini@redhat.com> (raw)
People were confused about the level of protection provided by host kernel
updates (which do not exist yet, but I digress). They were also asking
whether it will be possible to live migrate from old to new QEMU and get
the fixes. Clarify both aspects.
Suggested-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Suggested-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
---
_posts/2018-01-04-spectre.md | 32 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------
1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
diff --git a/_posts/2018-01-04-spectre.md b/_posts/2018-01-04-spectre.md
index 1be86d0..5bbc7ed 100644
--- a/_posts/2018-01-04-spectre.md
+++ b/_posts/2018-01-04-spectre.md
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
layout: post
title: "QEMU and the Spectre and Meltdown attacks"
date: 2018-01-04 18:00:00 +0000
+last_modified_at: 2018-01-05 10:30:00 +0000
author: Paolo Bonzini and Eduardo Habkost
categories: [meltdown, spectre, security, x86]
---
@@ -21,17 +22,19 @@ especially on [CVE-2017-5715](https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE
Fixing or mitigating _Spectre_ in general, and CVE-2017-5715 in particular,
requires cooperation between the processor and the operating system kernel or
hypervisor; the processor can be updated through microcode or millicode
-patches to provide the required functionality. CVE-2017-5715 allows guests
-to read potentially sensitive data from hypervisor memory; however, __patching
-the host kernel is sufficient to block this attack__.
-
-On the other hand, in order to protect the guest kernel from a malicious
-userspace, updates are also needed to the guest kernel and, depending on
-the processor architecture, to QEMU. Just like on bare-metal, the guest
-kernel will use the new functionality provided by the microcode or millicode
-updates. When running under a hypervisor, processor emulation is mostly out of
-QEMU's scope, so QEMU's role in the fix is small, but nevertheless important.
-In the case of KVM:
+patches to provide the required functionality.
+
+Among the three vulnerabilities, CVE-2017-5715 is notable because
+it allows guests to read potentially sensitive data from hypervisor
+memory. Patching the host kernel is sufficient to block attacks from
+guests to the host. On the other hand, in order to protect the guest
+kernel from a malicious userspace, updates are also needed to the guest
+kernel and, depending on the processor architecture, to QEMU.
+
+Just like on bare-metal, the guest kernel will use the new functionality
+provided by the microcode or millicode updates. When running under a
+hypervisor, processor emulation is mostly out of QEMU's scope, so QEMU's
+role in the fix is small, but nevertheless important. In the case of KVM:
* QEMU configures the hypervisor to emulate a specific processor model.
For x86, QEMU has to be aware of new CPUID bits introduced by the microcode
@@ -49,6 +52,10 @@ host from malicious guests__. Nevertheless, updates will be posted to the
qemu-devel mailing list in the next few days, and a 2.11.1 patch release
will be released with the fix.
+Once updates are provided, __live migration will not be enough to protect
+guest kernel from guest userspace__. Because the virtual CPU has to be
+changed to one with the new CPUID bits, the guest will have to be restarted.
+
As of today, the QEMU project is not aware of whether similar changes will
be required for non-x86 processors. If so, they will also posted to the
mailing list and backported to recent stable releases.
@@ -58,3 +65,6 @@ Blog](https://security.googleblog.com/2018/01/todays-cpu-vulnerability-what-you-
and [Google Project
Zero](https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.it/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html)
posts on the topic, as well as the [Spectre and Meltdown FAQ](https://meltdownattack.com/#faq).
+
+__5 Jan 2018__: clarified the level of protection provided by the host kernel
+update; added a note on live migration.
--
2.14.3
next reply other threads:[~2018-01-05 10:38 UTC|newest]
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2018-01-05 10:38 Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-01-05 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-web PATCH] refine spectre blog post Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-05 10:46 ` Juan Quintela
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