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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@xilinx.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/5] Add a valid_cpu_types property
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:25:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180111112508.46410b61@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180110214800.GU6646@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:48:00 -0200
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 01:30:29PM -0800, Alistair Francis wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:  
> > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 02:39:31PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> > >> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:47:00 -0800
> > >> Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@xilinx.com> wrote:
> > >>  
> > >> > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Alistair Francis
> > >> > <alistair.francis@xilinx.com> wrote:  
> > >> > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:  
> > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 05:03:59PM -0800, Alistair Francis wrote:  
> > >> > >>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Alistair Francis
> > >> > >>> <alistair.francis@xilinx.com> wrote:  
> > >> > >>> > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:  
> > >> > >>> >> On 20 December 2017 at 00:27, Alistair Francis
> > >> > >>> >> <alistair.francis@xilinx.com> wrote:  
> > >> > >>> >>> There are numorous QEMU machines that only have a single or a handful of
> > >> > >>> >>> valid CPU options. To simplyfy the management of specificying which CPU
> > >> > >>> >>> is/isn't valid let's create a property that can be set in the machine
> > >> > >>> >>> init. We can then check to see if the user supplied CPU is in that list
> > >> > >>> >>> or not.
> > >> > >>> >>>
> > >> > >>> >>> I have added the valid_cpu_types for some ARM machines only at the
> > >> > >>> >>> moment.
> > >> > >>> >>>
> > >> > >>> >>> Here is what specifying the CPUs looks like now:
> > >> > >>> >>>
> > >> > >>> >>> $ aarch64-softmmu/qemu-system-aarch64 -M netduino2 -kernel ./u-boot.elf -nographic -cpu "cortex-m3" -S
> > >> > >>> >>> QEMU 2.10.50 monitor - type 'help' for more information
> > >> > >>> >>> (qemu) info cpus
> > >> > >>> >>> * CPU #0: thread_id=24175
> > >> > >>> >>> (qemu) q
> > >> > >>> >>>
> > >> > >>> >>> $ aarch64-softmmu/qemu-system-aarch64 -M netduino2 -kernel ./u-boot.elf -nographic -cpu "cortex-m4" -S
> > >> > >>> >>> QEMU 2.10.50 monitor - type 'help' for more information
> > >> > >>> >>> (qemu) q
> > >> > >>> >>>
> > >> > >>> >>> $ aarch64-softmmu/qemu-system-aarch64 -M netduino2 -kernel ./u-boot.elf -nographic -cpu "cortex-m5" -S
> > >> > >>> >>> qemu-system-aarch64: unable to find CPU model 'cortex-m5'
> > >> > >>> >>>
> > >> > >>> >>> $ aarch64-softmmu/qemu-system-aarch64 -M netduino2 -kernel ./u-boot.elf -nographic -cpu "cortex-a9" -S
> > >> > >>> >>> qemu-system-aarch64: Invalid CPU type: cortex-a9-arm-cpu
> > >> > >>> >>> The valid types are: cortex-m3-arm-cpu, cortex-m4-arm-cpu  
> > >> > >>> >>
> > >> > >>> >> Thanks for this; we really should be more strict about
> > >> > >>> >> forbidding "won't work" combinations than we have
> > >> > >>> >> been in the past.
> > >> > >>> >>
> > >> > >>> >> In the last of these cases, I think that when we
> > >> > >>> >> list the invalid CPU type and the valid types
> > >> > >>> >> we should use the same names we want the user to
> > >> > >>> >> use on the command line, without the "-arm-cpu"
> > >> > >>> >> suffixes.  
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > Hmm... That is a good point, it is confusing that they don't line up.  
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Agreed.
> > >> > >>  
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > The problem is that we are just doing a simple
> > >> > >>> > object_class_dynamic_cast() in hw/core/machine.c which I think
> > >> > >>> > (untested) requires us to have the full name in the valid cpu array.  
> > >> > >> [...]  
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> I think an earlier version of my previous series adding the support to
> > >> > >>> machine.c did string comparison, but it was decided to utilise objects
> > >> > >>> instead. One option is to make the array 2 wide and have the second
> > >> > >>> string be user friendly?  
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Making the array 2-column will duplicate information that we can
> > >> > >> already find out using other methods, and it won't solve the
> > >> > >> problem if an entry has a parent class with multiple subclasses
> > >> > >> (the original reason I suggested object_class_dynamic_cast()).
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> The main obstacle to fix this easily is that we do have a common
> > >> > >>   ObjectClass *cpu_class_by_name(const char *cpu_model)
> > >> > >> function, but not a common method to get the model name from a
> > >> > >> CPUClass.  Implementing this is possible, but probably better to
> > >> > >> do it after moving the existing arch-specific CPU model
> > >> > >> enumeration hooks to common code (currently we duplicate lots of
> > >> > >> CPU enumeration/lookup boilerplate code that we shouldn't have
> > >> > >> to).
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Listing only the human-friendly names in the array like in the
> > >> > >> original patch could be a reasonable temporary solution.  It
> > >> > >> won't allow us to use a single entry for all subclasses of a
> > >> > >> given type by now (e.g. listing only TYPE_X86_CPU on PC), but at
> > >> > >> least we can address this issue without waiting for a refactor of
> > >> > >> the CPU model enumeration code.  
> > >> >
> > >> > Ah, I just re-read this. Do you mean go back to the original RFC and
> > >> > just use strcmp() to compare the human readable cpu_model?  
> > >> It's sort of going backwards but I won't object to this as far as you
> > >> won't use machine->cpu_model (which is in process of being removed)  
> > 
> > Wait, machine->cpu_model is the human readable name. Without using
> > that we can't use just human readable strings for the valid cpu types.  
> 
> Well, if we want to deprecate machine->cpu_model we need to offer
> an alternative first, otherwise we can't prevent people from
> using it.
> 
> Igor, do you see an (existing) alternative to machine->cpu_model
> that would allow us to avoid using it in
> machine_run_board_init()?
In recently merged refactoring machine->cpu_model is being replaced
by machine->cpu_type. So currently we don't need machine->cpu_model
anywhere except machine('none'), and once I refactor that it could
be dropped completely and after some work on *-user targets we can
practically get rid of cpu_model notion completely
(excluding of -cpu option parser). 

My dislike of idea is that it's adding back cpumodel strings
in boards code again (which I've just got rid of).

I hate to say that but it looks like we need more refactoring
for this series to print cpumodels back to user.

We already have FOO_cpu_list()/FOO_query_cpu_definitions()
which already do cpu type => cpumodel conversion (and even
have some code duplication within a target), I'd suggest
generalizing that across targets and then using generic
helper for printing back to user converted cpu types from
mc->valid_cpu_types which this series introduces.


 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-11 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-20  0:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/5] Add a valid_cpu_types property Alistair Francis
2017-12-20  0:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/5] netduino2: Specify the valid CPUs Alistair Francis
2017-12-20  0:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/5] bcm2836: Use the Cortex-A7 instead of Cortex-A15 Alistair Francis
2017-12-20  0:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/5] raspi: Specify the valid CPUs Alistair Francis
2017-12-20  0:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/5] xlnx-zcu102: " Alistair Francis
2017-12-20  0:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 5/5] xilinx_zynq: " Alistair Francis
2017-12-20  0:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/5] Add a valid_cpu_types property Peter Maydell
2017-12-20  0:55   ` Alistair Francis
2017-12-20  1:03     ` Alistair Francis
2017-12-20 22:06       ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-12-22 18:45         ` Alistair Francis
2017-12-22 19:47           ` Alistair Francis
2017-12-22 21:26             ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-12-28 13:39             ` Igor Mammedov
2017-12-28 14:59               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-10 21:30                 ` Alistair Francis
2018-01-10 21:48                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-11 10:25                     ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2018-01-11 12:58                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-01 23:21                         ` Alistair Francis

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