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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, pkrempa@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mreitz@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 02/10] block/qapi: Add qcow2 create options to schema
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:07:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180115140715.GE32271@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180115135146.GJ8218@redhat.com>

Am 15.01.2018 um 14:51 hat Daniel P. Berrange geschrieben:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 02:38:48PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 12.01.2018 um 11:53 hat Daniel P. Berrange geschrieben:
> > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 08:52:17PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > > Signed-off-by: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  qapi/block-core.json | 33 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 32 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json
> > > > index 1749376c61..9341f6708d 100644
> > > > --- a/qapi/block-core.json
> > > > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
> > > > @@ -3320,6 +3320,37 @@
> > > >  { 'command': 'blockdev-del', 'data': { 'node-name': 'str' } }
> > > >  
> > > >  ##
> > > > +# @BlockdevQcow2CompatLevel:
> > > > +# @0_10:    The original QCOW2 format as introduced in qemu 0.10 (version 2)
> > > > +# @1_1:     The extended QCOW2 format as introduced in qemu 1.1 (version 3)
> > > > +#
> > > > +# Since: 2.10
> > > > +##
> > > > +{ 'enum': 'BlockdevQcow2CompatLevel',
> > > > +  'data': [ '0_10', '1_1' ] }
> > > > +
> > > > +
> > > > +##
> > > > +# @BlockdevCreateOptionsQcow2:
> > > > +#
> > > > +# Driver specific image creation options for qcow2.
> > > > +#
> > > > +# TODO Describe fields
> > > > +#
> > > > +# Since: 2.12
> > > > +##
> > > > +{ 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsQcow2',
> > > > +  'data': { 'size':             'size',
> > > > +            '*compat':          'BlockdevQcow2CompatLevel',
> > > > +            '*backing-file':    'str',
> > > > +            '*backing-fmt':     'BlockdevDriver',
> > > 
> > > For anything non-trivial, the caller is going to have to stuff a
> > > JSON string into 'backing-file' value. It feels like we should
> > > be referencing 'BlockdevOptions' here in some manner.
> > 
> > Hm, that's an interesting question. For the image creation, this is
> > really treated as a string that is directly written into the image file,
> > without being parsed, so 'str' is the more correct type in this context.
> > However, when the backing file gets loaded, that string is in fact
> > parsed and we expect it to describe the same thing as BlockdevOptions.
> > 
> > If we get BlockdevOptions here, qemu would have to convert them into a
> > json:{...} string before writing the header of the new image.
> > Compatibility code would become a bit more complex because we'd have to
> > convert the existing string into BlockdevOptions, only to convert it
> > back to a string before we write it to the image file. And finally, the
> > 1023 character limit of qcow2 becomes kind of unpredicatble when you
> > don't pass the string yourself.
> > 
> > So considering all of that, I still think that 'str' is the better
> > option here.
> 
> Hmm, when we write the backing chain into the qcow2 header, we only
> want to write the 1st level of the backing chain.

That's a good point, too. References in BlockdevOptions are often
mandatory, which conflicts with this.

> When we are creating the new qcow2 image, we could be pointing to a backing
> chain that goes many levels deep. So the actual creation process potentially
> needs to be given the full arbitrarily deep backing file eg in order that
> we can set 'encrypt.secret' for any encrypted images at at arbitrary level.

But we don't even access the images in the backing chain during image
creation. Why would we need a secret for them?

> IOW, I think we need to be able to pass BlockdevOptions here to specify the
> full deep chain, but then only the 1st level of these BlockdevOptions should
> get written into the qcow2 file header.

But what's the point of even passing the full chain if only the first
layer is actually used?

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-15 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-11 19:52 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/10] x-blockdev-create for qcow2 Kevin Wolf
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 01/10] block/qapi: Introduce BlockdevCreateOptions Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 18:54   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-16 19:58     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 02/10] block/qapi: Add qcow2 create options to schema Kevin Wolf
2018-01-12 10:53   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2018-01-15 13:38     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-15 13:51       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2018-01-15 14:07         ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-01-15 14:11           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2018-01-16 18:59   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-16 20:11     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 20:27       ` Eric Blake
2018-01-29 16:57   ` Max Reitz
2018-01-29 18:06     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-29 18:06       ` Max Reitz
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 03/10] qcow2: Let qcow2_create() handle protocol layer Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 19:03   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 04/10] qcow2: Pass BlockdevCreateOptions to qcow2_create2() Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 19:21   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-29 17:12   ` Max Reitz
2018-01-29 18:10     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-29 18:11       ` Max Reitz
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 05/10] qcow2: Use BlockdevRef in qcow2_create2() Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 19:35   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-29 17:30   ` Max Reitz
2018-01-29 18:14     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 06/10] qcow2: Use QCryptoBlockCreateOptions " Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 19:37   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 07/10] qcow2: Handle full/falloc preallocation " Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 19:40   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 08/10] util: Add qemu_opts_to_qdict_filtered() Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 19:45   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 09/10] qcow2: Use visitor for options in qcow2_create() Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 19:59   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-11 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 10/10] block: x-blockdev-create QMP command Kevin Wolf
2018-01-16 20:06   ` Eric Blake
2018-01-17 17:50   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-11 20:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/10] x-blockdev-create for qcow2 no-reply
2018-01-11 20:40 ` no-reply
2018-01-16 10:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-01-29 18:23 ` Max Reitz

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