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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
Cc: Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, paulus@ozlabs.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 00:54:59 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180116135459.GN30352@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1516110433.10494.5.camel@redhat.com>

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On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 02:47:13PM +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 17:32 +1100, Suraj Jitindar Singh wrote:
> > The following patch series adds 3 new tristate capabilities and their
> > associated handling.
> > 
> > A new H-Call is implemented which a guest will use to query the
> > requirement for and availability of workarounds for certain cpu
> > behaviours.
> > 
> > Applies on top of David's tree: ppc-for-2.12
> > 
> > The first patch from the previous revision has already been merged:
> > hw/ppc/spapr_caps: Rework spapr_caps to use uint8 internal representation
> > 
> > The main changes to V3 are:
> > - Split up the addition of the tristate caps into 5 patches
> >   - 1/6 query the caps from the hypervisor and parse the new return format
> >   - 2/6 add support for the new caps
> >   - 3-5/6 add each of the three new caps
> > - Patch 6/6 Unchanged
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like there's no way
> to figure out through QMP whether these new machine options can be
> used for a given QEMU binary.

Uh, I don't think so.  These are machine options like any other (just
constructed a bit differently).  So they'll appear in qemu -machine
pseries,? and I believe that info can also be retrieved with QMP.

> If so, that's very unfortunate because it means that libvirt has
> only two options: 1) just use them if the user requests the
> corresponding feature, which will lead to older QEMU binaries
> simply refusing to start; or 2) perform a version number check,
> which will not be accurate if downstream backports are involved.
> 
> Would this information be added to the MachineInfo struct, so that
> query-machines reports it? Or would a new QMP command be more
> appropriate for the task?
> 
> Alternatively, if there's any witness we can use instead of an
> explicit capability, let me know. But I still think we should
> think about a better long-term solution, especially because this
> seems to be happening quite frequently lately: see the hpt-resizing
> and max-cpu-compat machine properties, which are just as opaque
> from an introspection point of view.
> 
> Sorry for not bringing this up earlier.
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-16 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-15  6:32 [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 1/6] target/ppc/kvm: Add cap_ppc_safe_[cache/bounds_check/indirect_branch] Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V4 " Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:06     ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 2/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add support for tristate spapr_capabilities Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:07   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 3/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_cache Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:10   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 4/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_bounds_check Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 5/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_indirect_branch Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 6/6] target/ppc/spapr: Add H-Call H_GET_CPU_CHARACTERISTICS Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:20   ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  5:44     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18  5:53       ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  8:11         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18 20:30           ` Eric Blake
2018-01-18 23:35             ` David Gibson
2018-01-18 23:33           ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 13:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-16 13:54   ` David Gibson [this message]
2018-01-16 14:46     ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-16 22:34       ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 23:26         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-16 23:30           ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 23:46             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-17  1:15               ` David Gibson
2018-01-17  8:54           ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-18  4:27             ` David Gibson
2018-01-18 15:55               ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-19  2:22                 ` David Gibson
2018-01-19  3:59                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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