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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
Cc: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>,
	paulus@ozlabs.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:30:43 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180116233043.GR30352@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62449abf-fdd1-44f3-4a5c-0695e8607cea@ozlabs.ru>

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:26:28AM +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> On 17/01/18 09:34, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 03:46:20PM +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 00:54 +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> >>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like there's no way
> >>>> to figure out through QMP whether these new machine options can be
> >>>> used for a given QEMU binary.
> >>>
> >>> Uh, I don't think so.  These are machine options like any other (just
> >>> constructed a bit differently).  So they'll appear in qemu -machine
> >>> pseries,? and I believe that info can also be retrieved with QMP.
> >>
> >> Yes, they will indeed show up in the output of -machine pseries,?
> >> but there's AFAICT no way to retrieve them via QMP.
> > 
> > Really!?  I thought introspecting object properties was QMP's bread
> > and butter.
> 
> 
> On a guest started with '-S':
> {"execute": "qom-list", "arguments": {"path": "/machine"}}
> 
> returns:
> {   'return': [   {'name': 'graphics', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'phandle-start', 'type': 'int'},
>                   {'name': 'dump-guest-core', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'kernel-irqchip', 'type': 'OnOffSplit'},
>                   {'name': 'accel', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'append', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'dumpdtb', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'igd-passthru', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'dt-compatible', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'kernel', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'usb', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'suppress-vmdesc', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'dtb', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'firmware', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'mem-merge', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'initrd', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'enforce-config-section', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'kvm-shadow-mem', 'type': 'int'},
>                   {'name': 'cap-dfp', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'cap-htm', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'cap-vsx', 'type': 'bool'},
                              ^^^^^^^
Here are the cap properties.  Is it just Suraj's new tristate ones
that aren't showing up?  If so that's weird...  are you sure you built
with those patches included?

>                   {'name': 'vfio-no-msix-emulation', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {'name': 'kvm-type', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'max-cpu-compat', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {   'name': 'dr-connector[268435480]',
>                       'type': 'child<spapr-drc-cpu>'},
>                   {'name': 'peripheral', 'type': 'child<container>'},
>                   {   'name': 'dr-connector[268435472]',
>                       'type': 'child<spapr-drc-cpu>'},
>                   {'name': 'modern-hotplug-events', 'type': 'bool'},
>                   {   'name': 'dr-connector[268435464]',
>                       'type': 'child<spapr-drc-cpu>'},
>                   {   'name': 'dr-connector[268435456]',
>                       'type': 'child<spapr-drc-cpu>'},
>                   {'name': 'peripheral-anon', 'type': 'child<container>'},
>                   {'name': 'ics', 'type': 'child<icskvm>'},
>                   {'name': 'vsmt', 'type': 'uint32'},
>                   {'name': 'type', 'type': 'string'},
>                   {'name': 'rtc-time', 'type': 'struct tm'},
>                   {'name': 'unattached', 'type': 'child<container>'},
>                   {'name': 'rtc', 'type': 'child<spapr-rtc>'},
>                   {'name': 'resize-hpt', 'type': 'string'}]}
> 
> 
> but still requires a running qemu, yes.
> 
> > 
> >> And libvirt
> >> can't afford to spawn a QEMU process for each machine type
> >> implemented by each QEMU binary installed on the system just to
> >> figure out what properties they support; in fact, we've been
> >> pushing away from that approach - which was used initially - for
> >> years and we're now at the point where we only fall back to it
> >> for positively ancient QEMU versions. So the information needs
> >> to be available through QMP for libvirt to consume it.
> > 
> > Right, I'm not arguing with that.  It's just that I thought that
> > standard QOM properties on QOM objects (the machine in this case) met
> > the criteria.
> > 
> 
> 




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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-16 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-15  6:32 [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 1/6] target/ppc/kvm: Add cap_ppc_safe_[cache/bounds_check/indirect_branch] Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V4 " Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:06     ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 2/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add support for tristate spapr_capabilities Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:07   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 3/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_cache Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:10   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 4/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_bounds_check Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 5/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_indirect_branch Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 6/6] target/ppc/spapr: Add H-Call H_GET_CPU_CHARACTERISTICS Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:20   ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  5:44     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18  5:53       ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  8:11         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18 20:30           ` Eric Blake
2018-01-18 23:35             ` David Gibson
2018-01-18 23:33           ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 13:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-16 13:54   ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 14:46     ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-16 22:34       ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 23:26         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-16 23:30           ` David Gibson [this message]
2018-01-16 23:46             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-17  1:15               ` David Gibson
2018-01-17  8:54           ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-18  4:27             ` David Gibson
2018-01-18 15:55               ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-19  2:22                 ` David Gibson
2018-01-19  3:59                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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