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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	paulus@ozlabs.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:27:13 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180118042713.GJ30352@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1516179297.3278.6.camel@redhat.com>

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:54:57AM +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 10:26 +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > On 17/01/18 09:34, David Gibson wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 03:46:20PM +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 00:54 +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like there's no way
> > > > > > to figure out through QMP whether these new machine options can be
> > > > > > used for a given QEMU binary.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Uh, I don't think so.  These are machine options like any other (just
> > > > > constructed a bit differently).  So they'll appear in qemu -machine
> > > > > pseries,? and I believe that info can also be retrieved with QMP.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, they will indeed show up in the output of -machine pseries,?
> > > > but there's AFAICT no way to retrieve them via QMP.
> > > 
> > > Really!?  I thought introspecting object properties was QMP's bread
> > > and butter.
> > 
> > On a guest started with '-S':
> > {"execute": "qom-list", "arguments": {"path": "/machine"}}
> > 
> > returns:
> > {   'return': [   {'name': 'graphics', 'type': 'bool'},
> [...]
> >                   {'name': 'cap-dfp', 'type': 'bool'},
> >                   {'name': 'cap-htm', 'type': 'bool'},
> >                   {'name': 'cap-vsx', 'type': 'bool'},
> >                   {'name': 'vfio-no-msix-emulation', 'type': 'bool'},
> >                   {'name': 'kvm-type', 'type': 'string'},
> >                   {'name': 'max-cpu-compat', 'type': 'string'},
> [...]
> >                   {'name': 'resize-hpt', 'type': 'string'}]}
> > 
> > but still requires a running qemu, yes.
> 
> That's not a problem in itself; however, AFAICT the guest in
> question also needs to be started with -machine pseries in order
> for the above to work, which means it's not usable due to the
> scalability issues mentioned earlier in the thread. We run QEMU
> with -machine none, a single time, to probe for capabilities.
> 
> I looked further and device-list-properties looks like it would
> do the trick; however it doesn't seem to work for machines:
> 
>   {"execute": "device-list-properties",
>    "arguments": {"typename": "spapr-2.11-machine"}}
>   {"error": {"class": "GenericError",
>              "desc": "Parameter 'typename' expects device"}}
> 
> It works fine for the likes of virtio-scsi-pci and even
> power9_v2.0-powerpc64-cpu, though. Any ideas? :)

I'm guessing it's because machines aren't descended from TYPE_DEVICE.

Dammit.  I really can't see a reasonable way of addressing this other
than improving qapi in general to have a way of reporting machine
class properties.  Adding something ad-hoc for just these properties
of this machine seems like madness.

Nor can I think of a place to put these that would be both sensible
and more discoverable with existing mechanisms.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-18  4:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-15  6:32 [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 1/6] target/ppc/kvm: Add cap_ppc_safe_[cache/bounds_check/indirect_branch] Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V4 " Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:06     ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 2/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add support for tristate spapr_capabilities Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:07   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 3/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_cache Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:10   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 4/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_bounds_check Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 5/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_indirect_branch Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 6/6] target/ppc/spapr: Add H-Call H_GET_CPU_CHARACTERISTICS Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:20   ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  5:44     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18  5:53       ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  8:11         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18 20:30           ` Eric Blake
2018-01-18 23:35             ` David Gibson
2018-01-18 23:33           ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 13:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-16 13:54   ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 14:46     ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-16 22:34       ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 23:26         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-16 23:30           ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 23:46             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-17  1:15               ` David Gibson
2018-01-17  8:54           ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-18  4:27             ` David Gibson [this message]
2018-01-18 15:55               ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-19  2:22                 ` David Gibson
2018-01-19  3:59                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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