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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/5] tpm: add CRB device
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:08:33 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180120110833.GF5292@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ddb9d984-03b8-9ae6-fb3e-e85dd648e9c5@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 04:56:31PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 01/19/2018 01:42 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:10:03PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> > > On 01/19/2018 09:11 AM, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> > > > tpm_crb is a device for TPM 2.0 Command Response Buffer (CRB)
> > > > Interface as defined in TCG PC Client Platform TPM Profile (PTP)
> > > > Specification Family “2.0” Level 00 Revision 01.03 v22.
> > > > 
> > > > The PTP allows device implementation to switch between TIS and CRB
> > > > model at run time, but given that CRB is a simpler device to
> > > > implement, I chose to implement it as a different device.
> > > > 
> > > > The device doesn't implement other locality than 0 for now (my laptop
> > > > TPM doesn't either, so I assume this isn't so bad)
> > > > 
> > > > The command/reply memory region is statically allocated after the CRB
> > > > registers address TPM_CRB_ADDR_BASE + sizeof(struct crb_regs) (I
> > > > wonder if the BIOS could or should allocate it instead, or what size
> > > > to use, again this seems to fit well expectations)
> > > I removed this last sentence now. It's at the right location.
> > > 
> > > > The PTP doesn't specify a particular bus to put the device. So I added
> > > > it on the system bus directly, so it could hopefully be used easily on
> > > > a different platform than x86. Currently, it fails to init on piix,
> > > > because error_on_sysbus_device() check. The check may be changed in a
> > > > near future, see discussion on the qemu-devel ML.
> > > I think this has to be solved. So I remove these last 2 sentences. I'll have
> > > to wait until that other patch series from Eduard is merged since it doesn't
> > > start yet.
> > The series was just merged to master.  It's possible to make a
> > machine accept the new device using
> > machine_class_allow_dynamic_sysbus_dev(), now.
> 
> I saw that.
> > 
> > However, is it really necessary to make it a sysbus device?
> > Having bus-less devices was not possible in the past, but it is
> > possible today.
> > 
> What I don't like about it is the fact that I would have to use q35 if we
> only extend that machine type to allow this sysbus device. What is the
> reason that dynamic sysbus devices have to explicitly be allowed? If we
> don't need to limit this device to a certain machine type that may be more
> user friendly.

Most sysbus devices don't work unless they have additional
supporting machine code to wire them at the right addresses.
Devices that work without extra machine code (like *-iommu) are
the exception.

I think the last time I saw an explanation for this was at:
https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg439549.html

-- 
Eduardo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-20 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-19 14:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/5] tpm: CRB device and cleanups Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-19 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/5] tpm: lookup cancel path under tpm device class Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-19 14:32   ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-19 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/5] tpm: replace GThreadPool with AIO threadpool Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-23 18:39   ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-19 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/5] tpm: report backend request error Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-19 14:57   ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-19 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/5] tpm: add CRB device Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-19 17:10   ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-19 18:42     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-19 21:56       ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-20 11:08         ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2018-01-20 12:54   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-01-21  5:46     ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-21 19:24       ` Marc-Andre Lureau
2018-01-21 22:01         ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-22 15:08           ` Marc-Andre Lureau
2018-01-22 15:47             ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-22 16:57               ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-22 17:25             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-22 17:32               ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-22 17:47                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-22 18:15                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-22 19:22                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-21 22:50       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-01-19 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/5] tpm: extend TPM CRB with state migration support Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-19 14:46   ` Stefan Berger
2018-01-19 14:49     ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-01-19 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/5] tpm: CRB device and cleanups no-reply
2018-01-19 14:56   ` Marc-Andre Lureau
2018-01-19 15:06     ` Stefan Berger

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