From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Wei Huang <wei@redhat.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V1 1/1] tests: Add migration test for aarch64
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 10:19:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180129101935.GB2408@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA97sfayAEypoArqg4zt5eiv-D9_VoXkeTqz3wn2LutF5Q@mail.gmail.com>
* Peter Maydell (peter.maydell@linaro.org) wrote:
> On 29 January 2018 at 09:53, Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> > * Peter Maydell (peter.maydell@linaro.org) wrote:
> >> On 26 January 2018 at 19:46, Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > * Peter Maydell (peter.maydell@linaro.org) wrote:
> >> >> I think the correct fix here is that your test code should turn
> >> >> its MMU on. Trying to treat guest RAM as uncacheable doesn't work
> >> >> for Arm KVM guests (for the same reason that VGA device video memory
> >> >> doesn't work). If it's RAM your guest has to arrange to map it as
> >> >> Normal Cacheable, and then everything should work fine.
> >> >
> >> > Does this cause problems with migrating at just the wrong point during
> >> > a VM boot?
> >>
> >> It wouldn't surprise me if it did, but I don't think I've ever
> >> tried to provoke that problem...
> >
> > If you think it'll get the RAM contents wrong, it might be best to fail
> > the migration if you can detect the cache is disabled in the guest.
>
> I guess QEMU could look at the value of the "MMU disabled/enabled" bit
> in the guest's system registers, and refuse migration if it's off...
>
> (cc'd Marc, Christoffer to check that I don't have the wrong end
> of the stick about how thin the ice is in the period before the
> guest turns on its MMU...)
OK; I mean it's not nice either way - but a failed migration is better
than one with corrupt RAM.
It's not pretty for cloud users; they do host-evacuations and the like
fully automatically without any knowledge of the state of a VM and hope
for migrations to work in any state.
Dave
> thanks
> -- PMM
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-29 10:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-24 21:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V1 1/1] tests: Add migration test for aarch64 Wei Huang
2018-01-25 20:05 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-26 15:47 ` Wei Huang
2018-01-26 16:39 ` Peter Maydell
2018-01-26 17:08 ` Wei Huang
2018-01-26 19:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-28 15:08 ` Peter Maydell
2018-01-29 9:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-29 10:04 ` Peter Maydell
2018-01-29 10:19 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-01-29 10:32 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-01-31 9:53 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-31 15:18 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-31 15:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-31 16:53 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-31 16:59 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-31 17:39 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-31 18:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-31 19:12 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-31 20:15 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-01 9:17 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-01 9:33 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-01 9:59 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-01 10:09 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-01 10:42 ` Andrew Jones
2018-02-01 10:48 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-01 12:25 ` Andrew Jones
2018-02-01 14:04 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-01 20:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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