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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Tan, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] exec: eliminate ram naming issue as migration
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 18:44:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180205184449.GE2317@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180205181521.47232aa4@redhat.com>

* Igor Mammedov (imammedo@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 17:19:09 +0100
> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 05/02/2018 17:12, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
> > > Hi Paolo,
> > > 
> > > On 2/5/2018 11:53 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:  
> > >> On 05/02/2018 15:58, Jianfeng Tan wrote:  
> > >>> Here are some options to fix this:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. When we do ram name comparison, we truncate the prefix as this
> > >>> patch shows.
> > >>> It cannot cover the corner case: the source VM could have two ram blocks
> > >>> with name of "pc.ram" and "/object/pc.ram".  
> > >> That shouldn't happen ("pc.ram" exists even in the "-numa
> > >> node,memdev=..." case, but it has no RAM block).  
> > > 
> > > Suppose we have a VM started with "-m xG", and then hot plugged with a
> > > ram block:
> > >   (qemu) object_add
> > > memory-backend-file,id=pc.ram,size=1G,mem-path=/dev/hugepages
> > >   (qemu) device_add pc-dimm,id=pc.ram,memdev=pc.ram
> > > 
> > > Then we would have both ram block named pc.ram:
> > >               Block Name    PSize
> > >                       pc.ram     4 KiB
> > >       /objects/pc.ram    2 MiB
> > > 
> > > But I assume it's a corner case which not really happen.  
> > 
> > Yeah, you're right. :/  I hadn't thought of hotplug.  It can happen indeed.
> perhaps we should fail object_add memory-backend-foo if it resulted
> in creating ramblock with duplicate id
>  
That's probably not a bad idea;  I thought I'd hit a simpliar problem a
while ago; I'd ended up (through a different problem) of having
RAMBlocks with empty names and ended up with two of them.

Dave

> > 
> > >> However, note that
> > >>
> > >>    -m xG -numa node,memdev=pc.ram \
> > >>    -object memory-backend-file,id=pc.ram,...
> > >>
> > >> works for both vhost-kernel and vhost-user, so I'd rather consider this
> > >> a configuration problem and not do anything.  
> > > 
> > > That configuration indeed works for both. But in the production env,
> > > lots of VMs are already started with previous mem config. If we do
> > > nothing, it will take a long time (shutdown/start for each VM) to
> > > migrate to the new setup. This patch is to make this process more smooth
> > > without any bad effect if possible.  
> > 
> > I understand.  However it's not as bad as "there's no possibility at all
> > to migrate from vhost-kernel to vhost-user".  There are cases that are
> > more problematic: for example, there's no possibility at all to add
> > memory NUMA policy during a live migration, unless -object
> > memory-backend-* was used on the source.
> > 
> > Paolo
> > 
> 
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-05 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-05 14:58 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] exec: eliminate ram naming issue as migration Jianfeng Tan
2018-02-05 15:45 ` no-reply
2018-02-05 15:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-05 16:12   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-05 16:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-05 16:44       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-05 16:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-05 17:15       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-05 17:31         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-07  7:49           ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-07 12:06             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-08  1:20               ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-08  9:51                 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-08 10:18                   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-08 11:30                     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-24  3:08                       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-24  3:11                       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-26 12:55                         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-26 14:43                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-27  4:55                             ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-27  4:36                           ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-28 15:40                             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-05 18:44         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-02-05 16:12 ` no-reply
2018-02-05 16:29 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-02-05 16:51   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-02-05 18:36     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-02-06 15:24       ` Igor Mammedov

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