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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] scsi: add block job opblockers for scsi-block
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:30:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180212143040.GH5103@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81af35f9-4934-0c21-e3b1-b27c2fa7fdd9@redhat.com>

Am 12.02.2018 um 15:00 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> On 12/02/2018 14:52, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 08.02.2018 um 11:42 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> >> On 08/02/2018 02:35, Fam Zheng wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 02/07 17:36, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>>> @@ -2626,6 +2656,36 @@ static void scsi_block_realize(SCSIDevice *dev, Error **errp)
> >>>>  
> >>>>      scsi_realize(&s->qdev, errp);
> >>>>      scsi_generic_read_device_identification(&s->qdev);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    /* For op blockers, due to lack of support for dirty bitmaps.  */
> >>>> +    error_setg(&sb->mirror_source,
> >>>> +               "scsi-block does not support acting as a mirroring source");
> >>>> +    error_setg(&sb->commit_source,
> >>>> +               "scsi-block does not support acting as an active commit source");
> >>>
> >>> An alternative way would be adding BLOCK_OP_TYPE_DIRTY_BITMAP. The error message
> >>> will not be as nice but it can be useful for another (blockjob) operation that
> >>> requires dirty bitmap support, or another device that doesn't support dirty
> >>> bitmaps. Though there isn't one for now.
> >>
> >> Yeah, I thought about it.  Another possibility is make BLOCK_OP_TYPE_* a
> >> bitmask.  Then you can easily add a single Error * for multiple
> >> blockers, and BLOCK_OP_TYPE_DIRTY_BITMAP can be defined as
> >> BLOCK_OP_TYPE_MIRROR_SOURCE|BLOCK_OP_TYPE_COMMIT_SOURCE; likewise for
> >> notifiers below.
> > 
> > We shouldn't be adding new instances of BLOCK_OP_* at all. I couldn't
> > find the time yet to remove the existing ones, but any new protections
> > should be using the permission system.
> 
> I agree.  But does this include not fixing bugs wherever clients are
> using the old op blockers?

I'm not saying that we shouldn't fix the bug, just that we should fix it
properly with the best infrastructure we have.

The old op blockers are "fixing" the problem at the symptom level, and
you have to check for each high-level operation if it does something
problematic internally. You have to repeat this analysis every time you
add a new operation or modifiy an existing one (which noone ever does).
The risk that this breaks sooner or later is pretty high.

The new permission system, on the other hand, directly addresses the
root cause, and any new feature that uses dirty bitmaps will then
automatically get the protection, too.

So in fact, I would say that the bug isn't really fixed (but at best
papered over) until we add a proper fix on the permission level.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-12 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-07 16:36 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] scsi: add block job opblockers for scsi-block Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-07 16:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] scsi: add unrealize method for SCSI devices Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-08  1:35   ` Fam Zheng
2018-02-07 16:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] scsi: add block job opblockers for scsi-block Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-08  1:35   ` Fam Zheng
2018-02-08 10:42     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-12 13:52       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-12 14:00         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-12 14:30           ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-02-12 14:32             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-12 14:48               ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-12 14:50                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-03-12 11:10                   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-03-12 11:58                     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-05 11:59                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-05 12:43                         ` Kevin Wolf

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