From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1elbh4-00055z-GW for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:36:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1elbh3-0006U3-Aw for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:36:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:36:15 +0000 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Message-ID: <20180213143615.GN573@redhat.com> Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= References: <20180107122336.29333-1-richiejp@f-m.fm> <5cf19623-72ac-fb8b-2054-a60d42419ec6@redhat.com> <20180111130427.GG8326@redhat.com> <20180213105024.GC5083@localhost.localdomain> <20180213143001.GA2354@rkaganb.sw.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180213143001.GA2354@rkaganb.sw.ru> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH 1/2] Add save-snapshot, load-snapshot and delete-snapshot to QAPI List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Roman Kagan , Kevin Wolf , Richard Palethorpe , Qemu-block , quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, Max Reitz , rpalethorpe@suse.com, dgilbert@redhat.com, Denis Plotnikov , Denis Lunev On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 05:30:02PM +0300, Roman Kagan wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 11:50:24AM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote: > > Am 11.01.2018 um 14:04 hat Daniel P. Berrange geschrieben: > > > Then you could just use the regular migrate QMP commands for loading > > > and saving snapshots. > > > > Yes, you could. I think for a proper implementation you would want to do > > better, though. Live migration provides just a stream, but that's not > > really well suited for snapshots. When a RAM page is dirtied, you just > > want to overwrite the old version of it in a snapshot [...] > > This means the point in time where the guest state is snapshotted is not > when the command is issued, but any unpredictable amount of time later. > > I'm not sure this is what a user expects. > > A better approach for the save part appears to be to stop the vcpus, > dump the device state, resume the vcpus, and save the memory contents in > the background, prioritizing the old copies of the pages that change. > No multiple copies of the same page would have to be saved so the stream > format would be fine. For the load part the usual inmigrate should > work. No, that's policy decision that doesn't matter from QMP pov. If the mgmt app wants the snapshot to be wrt to the initial time, it can simply invoke the "stop" QMP command before doing the live migration and "cont" afterwards. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|