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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Roman Kagan" <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>,
	"Denis V. Lunev" <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Palethorpe" <richiejp@f-m.fm>,
	Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	rpalethorpe@suse.com,
	"Denis Plotnikov" <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>,
	aarcange@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block]  [PATCH 1/2] Add save-snapshot, load-snapshot and delete-snapshot to QAPI
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:27:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180213152711.GI2378@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180213151352.GF2307@rkaganb.sw.ru>

* Roman Kagan (rkagan@virtuozzo.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 03:05:03PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Denis V. Lunev (den@virtuozzo.com) wrote:
> > > On 02/13/2018 05:59 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > * Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > >> That doesn't seem practical unless you can instantaneously write out
> > > >> the entire guest RAM to disk without blocking, or can somehow snapshot
> > > >> the RAM so you can write out a consistent view of the original RAM,
> > > >> while the guest continues to dirty RAM pages.
> > > > People have suggested doing something like that with userfault write
> > > > mode; but the same would also be doable just by write protecting the
> > > > whole of RAM and then following the faults.
> > > 
> > > nope, userfault fd does not help :( We have tried, the functionality is not
> > > enough. Better to have small extension to KVM to protect all memory
> > > and notify QEMU with accessed address.
> > 
> > Can you explain why? I thought the write-protect mode of userfaultfd was
> > supposed to be able to do that; cc'ing in Andrea
> 
> IIRC it would if it worked; it just didn't when we tried.

Hmm that doesn't seem to be the ideal reason to create new KVM
functionality, especially since there were a bunch of people wanting the
userfaultfd-write mode for other uses.

Dave

> Roman.
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-13 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-07 12:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add save-snapshot, load-snapshot and delete-snapshot to QAPI Richard Palethorpe
2018-01-07 12:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Add test cases for saving, loading and deleting snapshots using QAPI Richard Palethorpe
2018-01-08 13:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add save-snapshot, load-snapshot and delete-snapshot to QAPI Eric Blake
2018-01-10 16:19   ` Richard Palethorpe
2018-01-10 16:48     ` Eric Blake
2018-02-03 13:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-01-11 12:46   ` Max Reitz
2018-01-11 13:04     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2018-01-11 13:23       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-11 13:36         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2018-01-11 16:55           ` Juan Quintela
2018-02-12 13:25             ` Richard Palethorpe
2018-02-13 10:50       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2018-02-13 11:43         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-02-13 11:51           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-13 13:20             ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-13 13:25               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
     [not found]         ` <20180213143001.GA2354@rkaganb.sw.ru>
2018-02-13 14:36           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-13 14:45             ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-13 14:48               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-13 14:51                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2018-02-13 14:59                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-02-13 15:01                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2018-02-13 15:05                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
     [not found]                       ` <20180213151352.GF2307@rkaganb.sw.ru>
2018-02-13 15:27                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-02-13 15:29                           ` Denis V. Lunev
2018-02-13 16:01                       ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-02-15 15:21                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-02-13 16:46                 ` Eric Blake
2018-02-13 19:45                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2018-02-13 14:43           ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-13 14:50             ` Denis V. Lunev
2018-02-13 14:58             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-13 15:23               ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-13 15:30                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-13 15:51                   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-13 16:14             ` Denis Plotnikov
2018-01-10  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu

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