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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, pkrempa@redhat.com, jtc@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 19/21] blockjobs: Expose manual property
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:23:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180228182326.GM4855@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a2ce7907-a3e6-3c3b-fe9b-cd5ee119efe3@redhat.com>

Am 27.02.2018 um 22:57 hat John Snow geschrieben:
> 
> 
> On 02/27/2018 03:16 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
> > On 02/23/2018 05:51 PM, John Snow wrote:
> >> Expose the "manual" property via QAPI for the backup-related jobs.
> >> As of this commit, this allows the management API to request the
> >> "concluded" and "dismiss" semantics for backup jobs.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
> >> ---
> >>   blockdev.c           | 19 ++++++++++++++++---
> >>   qapi/block-core.json | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> >>   2 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> >>
> > 
> >> +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
> >> @@ -1177,6 +1177,16 @@
> >>   # @job-id: identifier for the newly-created block job. If
> >>   #          omitted, the device name will be used. (Since 2.7)
> >>   #
> >> +# @manual: True to use an expanded, more explicit job control flow.
> >> +#          Jobs may transition from a running state to a pending state,
> >> +#          where they must be instructed to complete manually via
> >> +#          block-job-finalize.
> >> +#          Jobs belonging to a transaction must either all or all not
> >> use this
> >> +#          setting. Once a transaction reaches a pending state,
> >> issuing the
> >> +#          finalize command to any one job in the transaction is
> >> sufficient
> >> +#          to finalize the entire transaction.
> > 
> > The previous commit message talked about mixed-manual transactions, but
> > this seems to imply it is not possible.  I'm fine if we don't support
> > mixed-manual transactions, but wonder if it means any changes to the
> > series.
> > 
> > Otherwise looks reasonable from the UI point of view.
> > 
> 
> More seriously, this documentation I wrote doesn't address the totality
> of the expanded flow. I omitted dismiss here by accident as well. This
> is at best a partial definition of the 'manual' property.
> 
> I'd like to use _this_ patch to ask the question: "What should the
> proper noun for the QEMU 2.12+ Expanded Block Job Management Flow
> Mechanism be?"
> 
> I'm not too sure, but "Manual mode" leaves a lot to be desired.

I still think that the best way to expose it is like this:

    # both default to true
    '*auto-finalize': 'bool',
    '*auto-dismiss': 'bool',

These options would be very easy to describe because they just invoke
the functionality of a specific QMP command automatically as soon as it
becomes available for the job.

But given how often I already said that and people still don't consider
it as an option, this doesn't appear to have been very convincing. So
whatever... *shrug*

Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-28 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-23 23:51 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 00/21] blockjobs: add explicit job management John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 01/21] blockjobs: fix set-speed kick John Snow
2018-02-27 16:32   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 02/21] blockjobs: model single jobs as transactions John Snow
2018-02-27 16:36   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 03/21] blockjobs: add manual property John Snow
2018-02-27 16:39   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 04/21] blockjobs: add status enum John Snow
2018-02-27 16:44   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:19   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 05/21] blockjobs: add state transition table John Snow
2018-02-27 16:27   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 16:45     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 17:08       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 18:58         ` John Snow
2018-02-27 18:58   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 19:06     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 19:22     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 06/21] iotests: add pause_wait John Snow
2018-02-27 17:19   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 19:01   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 07/21] blockjobs: add block_job_verb permission table John Snow
2018-02-27 17:19   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 19:25   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 19:38     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 08/21] blockjobs: add ABORTING state John Snow
2018-02-27 19:34   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 14:54   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:26     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 09/21] blockjobs: add CONCLUDED state John Snow
2018-02-27 19:38   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 19:44     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 15:37   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:29     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 10/21] blockjobs: add NULL state John Snow
2018-02-27 19:41   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 15:42   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 20:04     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 11/21] blockjobs: add block_job_dismiss John Snow
2018-02-27 19:44   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 15:53   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 20:35     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 12/21] blockjobs: ensure abort is called for cancelled jobs John Snow
2018-02-27 19:49   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:43     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 16:05   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 13/21] blockjobs: add commit, abort, clean helpers John Snow
2018-02-27 19:50   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 16:07   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 14/21] blockjobs: add block_job_txn_apply function John Snow
2018-02-27 19:52   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 16:32   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 15/21] blockjobs: add prepare callback John Snow
2018-02-27 19:56   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:45     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 17:04   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-03-07  3:19     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 16/21] blockjobs: add waiting status John Snow
2018-02-27 20:00   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:50     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 17:46       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 17/21] blockjobs: add PENDING status and event John Snow
2018-02-27 20:05   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:54     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 17:55   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 18/21] blockjobs: add block-job-finalize John Snow
2018-02-27 20:13   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 18:15   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:14     ` John Snow
2018-03-01 10:01       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-03-01 19:24         ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 19/21] blockjobs: Expose manual property John Snow
2018-02-27 20:16   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:42     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 21:57     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 22:27       ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 18:23       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-02-28 19:19         ` John Snow
2018-02-28 18:25   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:20     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 19:27       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 20/21] iotests: test manual job dismissal John Snow
2018-02-27 20:21   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:41     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 21/21] blockjobs: add manual_mgmt option to transactions John Snow
2018-02-27 20:24   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 18:29     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:24       ` John Snow
2018-03-01 10:10         ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-24  0:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 00/21] blockjobs: add explicit job management no-reply
2018-02-24 14:31 ` no-reply
2018-02-27 21:01   ` John Snow
2018-02-28 18:32     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-25 23:25 ` no-reply
2018-02-27 20:58   ` John Snow

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