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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, jtc@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 18/21] blockjobs: add block-job-finalize
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 11:01:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180301100134.GB4862@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24618453-fd43-de12-1e14-2fc9ed2c4b8b@redhat.com>

Am 28.02.2018 um 20:14 hat John Snow geschrieben:
> 
> 
> On 02/28/2018 01:15 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Is it because you want to avoid that the user picks an automatic job for
> > completing the mixed transaction?
> 
> I wanted to avoid the case that a job without the manual property would
> be stuck "pending" -- which I have defined to mean that it is waiting on
> an authorization from the user -- which isn't really true: it's waiting
> on its peers in the transaction to receive that authorization.
> 
> It would indeed be simpler to just let them stick around in PENDING like
> their peers, but it felt like a hacky way to allow mixed-mode
> transactions -- like they had been promoted for just a subset of their
> lifetime.
> 
> So, mostly it was a semantic decision and not a functional one based on
> what I considered "WAITING" to mean vs "PENDING".
> 
> If the definitions (and documentation) are adjusted it can be changed
> for the simpler layout if it seems just as good from the API
> perspective. (It's certainly better implementationally, as you say.)

I actually like it better conceptually, too, because I think of WAITING
as a state that waits for jobs in earlier states (i.e. RUNNING/READY
usually) and then everything moves forward together. Also waiting for
jobs that are already in a later state like PENDING, but only for
automatic jobs, makes the mental model more complex (or maybe it's just
me...).

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-01 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-23 23:51 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 00/21] blockjobs: add explicit job management John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 01/21] blockjobs: fix set-speed kick John Snow
2018-02-27 16:32   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 02/21] blockjobs: model single jobs as transactions John Snow
2018-02-27 16:36   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 03/21] blockjobs: add manual property John Snow
2018-02-27 16:39   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 04/21] blockjobs: add status enum John Snow
2018-02-27 16:44   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 17:19   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 05/21] blockjobs: add state transition table John Snow
2018-02-27 16:27   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 16:45     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 17:08       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 18:58         ` John Snow
2018-02-27 18:58   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 19:06     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 19:22     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 06/21] iotests: add pause_wait John Snow
2018-02-27 17:19   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 19:01   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 07/21] blockjobs: add block_job_verb permission table John Snow
2018-02-27 17:19   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-27 19:25   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 19:38     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 08/21] blockjobs: add ABORTING state John Snow
2018-02-27 19:34   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 14:54   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:26     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 09/21] blockjobs: add CONCLUDED state John Snow
2018-02-27 19:38   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 19:44     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 15:37   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:29     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 10/21] blockjobs: add NULL state John Snow
2018-02-27 19:41   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 15:42   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 20:04     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 11/21] blockjobs: add block_job_dismiss John Snow
2018-02-27 19:44   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 15:53   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 20:35     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 12/21] blockjobs: ensure abort is called for cancelled jobs John Snow
2018-02-27 19:49   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:43     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 16:05   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 13/21] blockjobs: add commit, abort, clean helpers John Snow
2018-02-27 19:50   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 16:07   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 14/21] blockjobs: add block_job_txn_apply function John Snow
2018-02-27 19:52   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 16:32   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 15/21] blockjobs: add prepare callback John Snow
2018-02-27 19:56   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:45     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 17:04   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-03-07  3:19     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 16/21] blockjobs: add waiting status John Snow
2018-02-27 20:00   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:50     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 17:46       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 17/21] blockjobs: add PENDING status and event John Snow
2018-02-27 20:05   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:54     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 17:55   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 18/21] blockjobs: add block-job-finalize John Snow
2018-02-27 20:13   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 18:15   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:14     ` John Snow
2018-03-01 10:01       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-03-01 19:24         ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 19/21] blockjobs: Expose manual property John Snow
2018-02-27 20:16   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:42     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 21:57     ` John Snow
2018-02-27 22:27       ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 18:23       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:19         ` John Snow
2018-02-28 18:25   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:20     ` John Snow
2018-02-28 19:27       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 20/21] iotests: test manual job dismissal John Snow
2018-02-27 20:21   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-27 20:41     ` John Snow
2018-02-23 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 21/21] blockjobs: add manual_mgmt option to transactions John Snow
2018-02-27 20:24   ` Eric Blake
2018-02-28 18:29     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-28 19:24       ` John Snow
2018-03-01 10:10         ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-24  0:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v4 00/21] blockjobs: add explicit job management no-reply
2018-02-24 14:31 ` no-reply
2018-02-27 21:01   ` John Snow
2018-02-28 18:32     ` Kevin Wolf
2018-02-25 23:25 ` no-reply
2018-02-27 20:58   ` John Snow

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