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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	wency@cn.fujitsu.com, qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] block migration and MAX_IN_FLIGHT_IO
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:52:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180305145215.GM3131@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f1ec3c7-1157-e618-62f8-ffd5e08eb342@kamp.de>

* Peter Lieven (pl@kamp.de) wrote:
> Am 05.03.2018 um 12:45 schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 12:13:50PM +0100, Peter Lieven wrote:
> >> I stumbled across the MAX_INFLIGHT_IO field that was introduced in 2015 and was curious what was the reason
> >> to choose 512MB as readahead? The question is that I found that the source VM gets very unresponsive I/O wise
> >> while the initial 512MB are read and furthermore seems to stay unreasponsive if we choose a high migration speed
> >> and have a fast storage on the destination VM.
> >>
> >> In our environment I modified this value to 16MB which seems to work much smoother. I wonder if we should make
> >> this a user configurable value or define a different rate limit for the block transfer in bulk stage at least?
> > I don't know if benchmarks were run when choosing the value.  From the
> > commit description it sounds like the main purpose was to limit the
> > amount of memory that can be consumed.
> >
> > 16 MB also fulfills that criteria :), but why is the source VM more
> > responsive with a lower value?
> >
> > Perhaps the issue is queue depth on the storage device - the block
> > migration code enqueues up to 512 MB worth of reads, and guest I/O has
> > to wait?
> 
> That is my guess. Especially if the destination storage is faster we basically alsways have
> 512 I/Os in flight on the source storage.
> 
> Does anyone mind if the reduce that value to 16MB or do we need a better mechanism?

We've got migration-parameters these days; you could connect it to one
of those fairly easily I think.
Try: grep -i 'cpu[-_]throttle[-_]initial'  for an example of one that's
already there.
Then you can set it to whatever you like.

Dave

> Peter
> 
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-05 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-22 11:13 [Qemu-devel] block migration and MAX_IN_FLIGHT_IO Peter Lieven
2018-03-05 11:45 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-03-05 14:37   ` Peter Lieven
2018-03-05 14:52     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-03-06 16:07       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-03-06 16:35         ` Peter Lieven
2018-03-07  7:55           ` Peter Lieven
2018-03-07  8:06             ` [Qemu-devel] block migration and dirty bitmap reset Peter Lieven
2018-03-08  1:28               ` Fam Zheng
2018-03-08  8:57                 ` Peter Lieven
2018-03-08  9:01                   ` Fam Zheng
2018-03-08 10:33                     ` Peter Lieven
2018-03-07  9:47             ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] block migration and MAX_IN_FLIGHT_IO Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-03-07 20:35               ` Peter Lieven
2018-03-06 16:14       ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Lieven

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