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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mst@redhat.com,
	maxime.coquelin@redhat.com, marcandre.lureau@redhat.com,
	peterx@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com
Cc: aarcange@redhat.com
Subject: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 29/29] postcopy shared docs
Date: Thu,  8 Mar 2018 19:58:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180308195811.24894-30-dgilbert@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180308195811.24894-1-dgilbert@redhat.com>

From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>

Add some notes to the migration documentation for shared memory
postcopy.

Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
---
 docs/devel/migration.rst | 41 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 41 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/devel/migration.rst b/docs/devel/migration.rst
index 9d1b7657f0..e32b087f6e 100644
--- a/docs/devel/migration.rst
+++ b/docs/devel/migration.rst
@@ -577,3 +577,44 @@ Postcopy now works with hugetlbfs backed memory:
      hugepages works well, however 1GB hugepages are likely to be problematic
      since it takes ~1 second to transfer a 1GB hugepage across a 10Gbps link,
      and until the full page is transferred the destination thread is blocked.
+
+Postcopy with shared memory
+---------------------------
+
+Postcopy migration with shared memory needs explicit support from the other
+processes that share memory and from QEMU. There are restrictions on the type of
+memory that userfault can support shared.
+
+The Linux kernel userfault support works on `/dev/shm` memory and on `hugetlbfs`
+(although the kernel doesn't provide an equivalent to `madvise(MADV_DONTNEED)`
+for hugetlbfs which may be a problem in some configurations).
+
+The vhost-user code in QEMU supports clients that have Postcopy support,
+and the `vhost-user-bridge` (in `tests/`) and the DPDK package have changes
+to support postcopy.
+
+The client needs to open a userfaultfd and register the areas
+of memory that it maps with userfault.  The client must then pass the
+userfaultfd back to QEMU together with a mapping table that allows
+fault addresses in the clients address space to be converted back to
+RAMBlock/offsets.  The client's userfaultfd is added to the postcopy
+fault-thread and page requests are made on behalf of the client by QEMU.
+QEMU performs 'wake' operations on the client's userfaultfd to allow it
+to continue after a page has arrived.
+
+.. note::
+  There are two future improvements that would be nice:
+    a) Some way to make QEMU ignorant of the addresses in the clients
+       address space
+    b) Avoiding the need for QEMU to perform ufd-wake calls after the
+       pages have arrived
+
+Retro-fitting postcopy to existing clients is possible:
+  a) A mechanism is needed for the registration with userfault as above,
+     and the registration needs to be coordinated with the phases of
+     postcopy.  In vhost-user extra messages are added to the existing
+     control channel.
+  b) Any thread that can block due to guest memory accesses must be
+     identified and the implication understood; for example if the
+     guest memory access is made while holding a lock then all other
+     threads waiting for that lock will also be blocked.
-- 
2.14.3

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-08 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-08 19:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/29] postcopy+vhost-user/shared ram Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/29] migrate: Update ram_block_discard_range for shared Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/29] qemu_ram_block_host_offset Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/29] postcopy: use UFFDIO_ZEROPAGE only when available Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/29] postcopy: Add notifier chain Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/29] postcopy: Add vhost-user flag for postcopy and check it Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 14:05   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/29] vhost-user: Add 'VHOST_USER_POSTCOPY_ADVISE' message Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 12:26   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 14:02     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/29] libvhost-user: Support sending fds back to qemu Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/29] libvhost-user: Open userfaultfd Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12  9:44   ` Peter Xu
2018-03-12 13:45   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/29] postcopy: Allow registering of fd handler Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/29] vhost+postcopy: Register shared ufd with postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12  9:47   ` Peter Xu
2018-03-12 13:46   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/29] vhost+postcopy: Transmit 'listen' to client Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 13:49   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 13:53     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 12/29] postcopy+vhost-user: Split set_mem_table for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12  9:57   ` Peter Xu
2018-03-12 13:54     ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 14:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 13/29] migration/ram: ramblock_recv_bitmap_test_byte_offset Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 14:05   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 14/29] libvhost-user+postcopy: Register new regions with the ufd Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 10:20   ` Peter Xu
2018-03-12 13:23     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-13  8:28       ` Peter Xu
2018-03-15  9:41         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-16  4:18           ` Peter Xu
2018-03-12 14:40   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 15/29] vhost+postcopy: Send address back to qemu Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 14:48   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 15:00     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 16/29] vhost+postcopy: Stash RAMBlock and offset Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 14:51   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 17/29] vhost+postcopy: Send requests to source for shared pages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 15:04   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 17:00     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 18/29] vhost+postcopy: Resolve client address Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 15:40   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 17:03     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 19/29] postcopy: helper for waking shared Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 20/29] postcopy: postcopy_notify_shared_wake Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 15:45   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 21/29] vhost+postcopy: Add vhost waker Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 15:47   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 22/29] vhost+postcopy: Call wakeups Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 16:09   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 23/29] libvhost-user: mprotect & madvises for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 16:15   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 16:56     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 24/29] vhost-user: Add VHOST_USER_POSTCOPY_END message Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 16:19   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-12 16:49     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 25/29] vhost+postcopy: Wire up POSTCOPY_END notify Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-12 16:20   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 26/29] vhost: Huge page align and merge Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 27/29] postcopy: Allow shared memory Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 28/29] libvhost-user: Claim support for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-03-08 19:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) [this message]
2018-03-12 16:56   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 29/29] postcopy shared docs Marc-André Lureau
2018-03-09 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/29] postcopy+vhost-user/shared ram Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-09-07 20:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  8:08   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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