From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
quintela@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
liliang.opensource@gmail.com, yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com,
quan.xu0@gmail.com, nilal@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:53:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180315155051-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5AAA49D0.7010200@intel.com>
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 06:24:16PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
> On 03/15/2018 10:47 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 09:15:48AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
> > > On 03/14/2018 10:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 02:03:19PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
> > > > > On 03/14/2018 10:53 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:43:01AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > On 03/14/2018 12:49 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 08:34:24PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Liang Li <liang.z.li@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > CC: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > CC: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > I find it suspicious that neither unrealize nor reset
> > > > > > > > functions have been touched at all.
> > > > > > > > Are you sure you have thought through scenarious like
> > > > > > > > hot-unplug or disabling the device by guest?
> > > > > > > OK. I think we can call balloon_free_page_stop in unrealize and reset.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +static void *virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints(void *opaque)
> > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > + VirtQueueElement *elem;
> > > > > > > > + VirtIOBalloon *dev = opaque;
> > > > > > > > + VirtQueue *vq = dev->free_page_vq;
> > > > > > > > + uint32_t id;
> > > > > > > > + size_t size;
> > > > > > > > What makes it safe to poke at this device from multiple threads?
> > > > > > > > I think that it would be safer to do it from e.g. BH.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually the free_page_optimization thread is the only user of free_page_vq,
> > > > > > > and there is only one optimization thread each time. Would this be safe
> > > > > > > enough?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Wei
> > > > > > Aren't there other fields there? Also things like reset affect all VQs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Yes. But I think BHs are used to avoid re-entrancy, which isn't the issue
> > > > > here.
> > > > Since you are adding locks to address the issue - doesn't this imply
> > > > reentrancy is exactly the issue?
> > > Not really. The lock isn't intended for any reentrancy issues, since there
> > > will be only one run of the virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints function at
> > > any given time. Instead, the lock is used to synchronize
> > > virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints and virtio_balloon_free_page_stop to
> > > access dev->free_page_report_status.
> > I wonder whether that's enough. E.g. is there a race with guest
> > trying to reset the device? That resets all VQs you know.
>
> I think that's OK - we will call virtio_balloon_free_page_stop in the device
> reset function, and qemu_thread_join() in virtio_balloon_free_page_stop will
> wait till the optimization thread exits. That is, the reset will proceed
> after the optimization thread exits.
>
>
> >
> >
> > > Please see the whole picture below:
> > >
> > > virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints()
> > > {
> > >
> > > while (1) {
> > > qemu_spin_lock();
> > > if (dev->free_page_report_status >= FREE_PAGE_REPORT_S_STOP ||
> > > !runstate_is_running()) {
> > > qemu_spin_unlock();
> > > break;
> > > }
> > > ...
> > > if (id == dev->free_page_report_cmd_id) {
> > > ==> dev->free_page_report_status = FREE_PAGE_REPORT_S_START;
> > > ...
> > > qemu_spin_unlock();
> > > }
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > static void virtio_balloon_free_page_stop(void *opaque)
> > > {
> > > VirtIOBalloon *s = opaque;
> > > VirtIODevice *vdev = VIRTIO_DEVICE(s);
> > >
> > > qemu_spin_lock();
> > > ...
> > > ==> s->free_page_report_status = FREE_PAGE_REPORT_S_STOP;
> > > ...
> > > qemu_spin_unlock();
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > Without the lock, there are theoretical possibilities that assigning STOP
> > > below is overridden by START above. In that
> > > case,virtio_balloon_free_page_stop does not effectively stop
> > > virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints.
> > > I think this issue couldn't be solved by BHs.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Wei
> > Don't all BHs run under the BQL?
>
> Actually the virtio_balloon_free_page_stop is called by the migration thread
> (instead of a BH). Even we guarantee the migration thread calls
> virtio_balloon_free_page_stop under BQL, the BQL is still too big for our
> case. Imagine this case: when the migration thread calls
> virtio_balloon_free_page_stop to stop the reporting, it blocks by BQL as
> virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints is in progress with BQL held, and the
> migration thread won't proceed untill virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints
> exits (i.e. getting all the hints). I think this isn't our intention - we
> basically want the migration thread to stop the guest reporting immediately.
> So I think the small lock above is better (it locks for only one hint).
>
> Best,
> Wei
I am just saying that all these locking and ownership tricks need to be
documented. BH would be much simpler.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-15 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-07 12:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/4] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-03-07 12:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/4] bitmap: bitmap_count_one_with_offset Wei Wang
2018-03-14 16:20 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-07 12:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/4] migration: API to clear bits of guest free pages from the dirty bitmap Wei Wang
2018-03-14 18:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-14 19:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14 19:42 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-14 20:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-15 11:10 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-15 10:52 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-15 13:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-16 11:24 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-07 12:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/4] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT Wei Wang
2018-03-13 16:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14 2:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-03-14 2:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14 6:03 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-14 14:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-15 1:15 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-15 2:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-15 10:24 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-15 13:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-03-14 18:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-07 12:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/4] migration: use the free page hint feature from balloon Wei Wang
2018-03-13 16:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14 2:41 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-14 2:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14 6:50 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-14 14:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-14 19:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-16 11:20 ` Wei Wang
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