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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, pkrempa@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/9] cli: add -preconfig option
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:31:29 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180403153129.GV5046@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180403163253.1d13633f@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 04:32:53PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:24:09 -0300
> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 01:43:03PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:21:48 -0300
> > > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 01:48:35PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> > > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:05:41 +0200
> > > > > Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >     
> > > > > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 18:25:08 -0300
> > > > > > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > > > This doesn't make sense to me.  Why would we enter
> > > > RUN_STATE_PRECONFIG state if -preconfig is not used at all?  
> > > because of RUN_STATE_PRECONFIG becomes new initial state of
> > > our state machine where we start of (used to be RUN_STATE_PRELAUNCH)  
> > 
> > Oh, I missed that part.
> > 
> > > Lets call it variant 1:
> > > 
> > > with this we have 2 possible transitions:
> > >  RUN_STATE_PRECONFIG -> RUN_STATE_PRELAUNCH (machine_init)
> > > 
> > > and
> > > 
> > >  RUN_STATE_PRECONFIG -> RUN_STATE_INMIGRATE
> > >    ugly but it was the same with RUN_STATE_PRELAUNCH initial transition  
> [...]
> > 
> > Thanks, now variant 1 makes more sense to me.  But I really miss
> > here are very clear and explicit descriptions of what each state
> > really mean, and what are the differences between them.
> > 
> > It looks like the existing description for `prelaunch` isn't
> > accurate:
> > 
> > # @prelaunch: QEMU was started with -S and guest has not started
> > 
> > This is false, as QEMU can be in `prelaunch` state even if -S is
> > not used.
> > 
> > 
> > Also, this is the description you proposed for `preconfig`:
> > 
> > # @preconfig: QEMU is paused before board specific init callback is executed.
> > #             The state is reachable only if -preconfig CLI option is used.
> > #             (Since 2.12)
> > 
> > This seems wrong as well: the `prelaunch` state is reachable even
> > if `-preconfig` isn't used in the command-line (because it is the
> > initial state).
> I'm not sure we should describe transitions/initial state here
> (it's not the case now).
> 
> I think descriptions 'almost' match 'end' result of what QMP client
> cloud see and the initial state is not something that QMP user could
> observe.

That's my impression as well: `prelaunch` should be visible
externally only if `-S` was used, and `preconfig` should be
visible externally only if `-preconfig` was used.

However, I miss documentation on what are the
expectations/requirements internally.  e.g. there's no
explanation why a reset request moves QEMU to
RUN_STATE_PRELAUNCH.  Ideally, each line in
runstate_transition_def would have a clear explanation for
when/why each transition happens.

But this isn't a requirement for the new feature you are
implementing, anyway.

-- 
Eduardo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-03 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-12 13:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/9] enable numa configuration before machine_init() from QMP Igor Mammedov
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/9] numa: postpone options post-processing till machine_run_board_init() Igor Mammedov
2018-03-23 20:34   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/9] numa: split out NumaOptions parsing into parse_NumaOptions() Igor Mammedov
2018-03-23 20:42   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-23 20:49     ` Eric Blake
2018-03-23 21:09       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-26  8:38       ` Laurent Vivier
2018-03-26 14:33         ` Eric Blake
2018-03-27 13:08     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-28 18:54       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-29 13:05         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-29 16:31           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-03 13:55             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/9] cli: add -preconfig option Igor Mammedov
2018-03-23 21:02   ` Eric Blake
2018-03-23 21:05   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-23 21:25   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-27 15:05     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-28 11:48       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-28 19:21         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-29 11:43           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-29 16:24             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-03 14:32               ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-03 15:31                 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2018-04-04  8:51                   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-28 19:17       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-29 13:01         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-29 16:57           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-03 10:41             ` Peter Krempa
2018-04-03 13:49             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-03 13:52               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-30 19:12                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/9] hmp: disable monitor in preconfig state Igor Mammedov
2018-03-23 21:27   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-28 11:16     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-28 18:55       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 5/9] qapi: introduce new cmd option "allowed-in-preconfig" Igor Mammedov
2018-03-23 21:11   ` Eric Blake
2018-03-28 15:23     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-23 21:28   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-28 12:29     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-28 19:30       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-29  9:53         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-29 12:21           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 6/9] tests: extend qmp test with preconfig checks Igor Mammedov
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 7/9] qmp: permit query-hotpluggable-cpus in preconfig state Igor Mammedov
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 8/9] qmp: add set-numa-node command Igor Mammedov
2018-03-12 13:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 9/9] tests: functional tests for QMP command set-numa-node Igor Mammedov
2018-04-17 14:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/9] enable numa configuration before machine_init() from QMP Markus Armbruster
2018-04-17 14:27   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-17 15:41     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-17 20:41       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-18  7:08         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-19  8:00           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-19 19:42             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-20  6:31               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-23  9:50                 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-23 13:05                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-23 16:55                     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-23 20:45                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-26 14:39                         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-26 14:55                           ` Eric Blake
2018-04-27 12:19                             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-04-20  5:23   ` David Gibson

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