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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] release retrospective, next release timing, numbering
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180430103506.GI3249@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180427210120.03d037b0@naga.suse.cz>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 09:01:20PM +0200, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:24:38 +0100
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 27 April 2018 at 17:17, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On 27.04.2018 17:51, Peter Maydell wrote:  
> > >> Hi; I usually let people forget about releases for a month or
> > >> so before bringing this topic up, but:
> > >>
> > >> (1) do we want to call the next release 2.13, or something else?
> > >> There's no particular reason to bump to 3.0 except some
> > >> combination of
> > >>  * if we keep going like this we'll get up to 2.42, which starts to
> > >>    get silly
> > >>  * Linus-style "avoid being too predictable"
> > >>  * triskaidekaphobia  
> > >
> > > and maybe:
> > >
> > >  * Celebrate 15 years of QEMU  
> > 
> > Oh, hey, I hadn't noticed that. That's as good a reason as
> > any other!
> > 
> > > By the way, just another crazy idea for v3.0 (i.e. feel free to
> > > turn it down immediately ;-)): Since compilation and testing time
> > > for QEMU is really huge, what do you think if we got rid of some
> > > QEMU binaries? qemu-system-aarch64 is a superset of
> > > qemu-system-arm, qemu-system-x86_64 is a superset of
> > > qemu-system-i386 and qemu-system-ppc64 is a superset of
> > > qemu-system-ppc (and qemu-system-ppcemb). Would be feasible to get
> > > rid of the subset binaries with some work? (I think they were
> > > especially useful on 32-bit machines in the past, but most people
> > > are using 64-bit machines nowadays, aren't they?).  
> > 
> > I think Markus' backward-compatibility rubber chicken may prevent
> > us from removing those executables...
> 
> At least the PPC vs PPC64 default to different BIOS, machine type, etc.
> 
> That could be achieved by a wrapper script around the 64bit binary I
> suppose.
> 
> Is there any reason why the 64bit emulator would not run on 32bit
> system? The emulated 64bit system is .. emulated after all.

I'm assuming thuat a qemu-system-x86_64  binary cannot use KVM to run
on a 32-bit host kernel, even if it was only running a 32-bit guest ?

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-30 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-27 15:51 [Qemu-devel] release retrospective, next release timing, numbering Peter Maydell
2018-04-27 16:17 ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-27 16:24   ` Peter Maydell
2018-04-27 16:42     ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-30 10:06       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-30 10:11         ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-02 11:58       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-02 12:05         ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-03  9:33           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03  9:42             ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-03  9:45               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03 14:01                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2018-05-03 14:16               ` Cédric Le Goater
2018-05-03 18:02                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-03 18:50                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-05-04  8:29                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-04  5:29                   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-05-04  8:16                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-04  8:24                       ` Peter Maydell
2018-04-27 19:01     ` Michal Suchánek
2018-04-29 14:56       ` Richard Henderson
2018-05-02 10:41         ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-02 11:51           ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-07 18:12         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-04-30 10:35       ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2018-05-02  7:29     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-05-02  8:16       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-02  9:44         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-30  9:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-30 10:01   ` Peter Maydell
2018-04-30 10:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-30 11:21   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-04-30 17:36     ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-02  7:33       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-02  7:43         ` Liviu Ionescu
2018-05-02  7:59           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-02  8:02             ` Liviu Ionescu
2018-05-02  8:13               ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-02  9:03                 ` Liviu Ionescu
2018-05-02  9:10                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-28  9:24                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-02  9:21                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-02  9:22                   ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-02  8:26               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-04 17:34             ` Max Reitz
2018-05-02  7:44       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-05-02  8:02         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03  7:21           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-03  9:07             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03  9:26               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-03  9:26               ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-03  9:31                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03  9:47                   ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-03 13:43                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-05-03 14:06                   ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-03 14:16                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-07 13:38                       ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2018-05-07 16:51                         ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-03 14:16                     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-04 13:20                   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-05-04 13:53                     ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-04 14:23                       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-05-04 17:30                     ` Richard Henderson
2018-05-07  5:33                       ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-07 14:05                         ` Kevin Wolf
2018-05-22 10:07   ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-01 11:57     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-30 14:23 ` Greg Kurz
2018-04-30 14:30   ` Peter Maydell
2018-04-30 14:34   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03  1:04   ` David Gibson
2018-05-01 12:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-01 12:48   ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-03 21:52   ` Laurent Vivier
2018-05-04  8:40     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-28  5:31 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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