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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jintack Lim <jintack@cs.columbia.edu>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] intel-iommu: add iommu lock
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 13:39:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180503053935.GA2378@xz-mi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54cee857-2492-95c8-e1c4-d6a6e2f6b552@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 09:20:42AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 28/04/2018 04:24, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>>> 2) Can we just reuse qemu BQL here?
> >>> I would prefer not.  As I mentioned, at least I have spent too much
> >>> time on fighting BQL already.  I really hope we can start to use
> >>> isolated locks when capable.  BQL is always the worst choice to me.
> >> Just a thought, using BQL may greatly simplify the code actually (consider
> >> we don't plan to remove BQL now).
> > Frankly speaking I don't understand why using BQL may greatly simplify
> > the code... :( IMHO the lock here is really not a complicated one.
> > 
> > Note that IMO BQL is mostly helpful when we really want something to
> > be run sequentially with some other things _already_ protected by BQL.
> > In this case, all the stuff is inside VT-d code itself (or other
> > IOMMUs), why bother taking the BQL to make our life harder?
> > 
> > So, even if we want to provide a general lock for the translation
> > procedure, I would prefer we add a per AddressSpace lock but not BQL.
> > However still that will need some extra flag showing that whether we
> > need the protection of not.  For example, we may need to expliclitly
> > turn that off for Power and s390.  Would that really worth it?
> > 
> > So my final preference is still current patch - we solve thread-safety
> > problems in VT-d and IOMMU code.  Again, we really should make sure
> > all IOMMUs work with multithreads.
> > 
> 
> I agree.  In particular, using BQL is _worse_ because it has very strict
> lock ordering requirements.  Using fine-grained locks is greatly
> preferred as long as:
> 
> 1) they are leaves in the lock ordering
> 
> 2) they are not kept across calls to external callbacks (or there are no
> external callbacks involved)

Thanks Paolo for the input.

I'll temporarily keep this patch in my next post.  We can further
discuss it there if we have better alternatives.

Regards,

-- 
Peter Xu

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-03  5:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-25  4:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] intel-iommu: nested vIOMMU, cleanups, bug fixes Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] intel-iommu: send PSI always even if across PDEs Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] intel-iommu: remove IntelIOMMUNotifierNode Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] intel-iommu: add iommu lock Peter Xu
2018-04-25 16:26   ` Emilio G. Cota
2018-04-26  5:45     ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27  5:13   ` Jason Wang
2018-04-27  6:26     ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27  7:19       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-27  9:53         ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28  1:54           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-28  1:43       ` Jason Wang
2018-04-28  2:24         ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28  2:42           ` Jason Wang
2018-04-28  3:06             ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28  3:11               ` Jason Wang
2018-04-28  3:14             ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28  3:16               ` Jason Wang
2018-04-30  7:22               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-30  7:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03  5:39             ` Peter Xu [this message]
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] intel-iommu: only do page walk for MAP notifiers Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] intel-iommu: introduce vtd_page_walk_info Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] intel-iommu: pass in address space when page walk Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] util: implement simple interval tree logic Peter Xu
2018-04-27  5:53   ` Jason Wang
2018-04-27  6:27     ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03  7:10     ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03  7:21       ` Jason Wang
2018-05-03  7:30         ` Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] intel-iommu: maintain per-device iova ranges Peter Xu
2018-04-27  6:07   ` Jason Wang
2018-04-27  6:34     ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27  7:02     ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-27  7:28       ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27  7:44         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-27  9:55           ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 11:40             ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 23:37               ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-03  6:04                 ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03  7:20                   ` Jason Wang
2018-05-03  7:28                     ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03  7:43                       ` Jason Wang
2018-05-03  7:53                         ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03  9:22                           ` Jason Wang
2018-05-03  9:53                             ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03 12:01                               ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28  1:49               ` Jason Wang
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] intel-iommu: don't unmap all for shadow page table Peter Xu
2018-04-25  4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] intel-iommu: remove notify_unmap for page walk Peter Xu
2018-04-25  5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] intel-iommu: nested vIOMMU, cleanups, bug fixes no-reply
2018-04-25  5:34   ` Peter Xu

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