From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>, Sergio Lopez <slp@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v2 0/2] block/file-posix: allow -drive cache.direct=off live migration
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 12:46:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180508104623.GA4065@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180508103232.GI19710@stefanha-x1.localdomain>
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Am 08.05.2018 um 12:32 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 05:23:10PM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > v2:
> > * Add comment on !__linux__ situation [Fam]
> > * Add file-posix.c x-check-cache-dropped=on|off option [DaveG, Kevin]
> >
> > file-posix.c only supports shared storage live migration with -drive
> > cache.direct=off due to cache consistency issues. There are two main shared
> > storage configurations: files on NFS and host block devices on SAN LUNs.
> >
> > The problem is that QEMU starts on the destination host before the source host
> > has written everything out to the disk. The page cache on the destination host
> > may contain stale data read when QEMU opened the image file (before migration
> > handover). Using O_DIRECT avoids this problem but prevents users from taking
> > advantage of the host page cache.
> >
> > Although cache=none is the recommended setting for virtualization use cases,
> > there are scenarios where cache=writeback makes sense. If the guest has much
> > less RAM than the host or many guests share the same backing file, then the
> > host page cache can significantly improve disk I/O performance.
> >
> > This patch series implements .bdrv_co_invalidate_cache() for block/file-posix.c
> > on Linux so that shared storage live migration works. I have sent it as an RFC
> > because cache consistency is not binary, there are corner cases which I've
> > described in the actual patch, and this may require more discussion.
> >
> > Regarding NFS, QEMU relies on O_DIRECT rather than the close-to-open
> > consistency model (see nfs(5)), which is the basic guarantee provided by NFS.
> > After this patch cache consistency is no longer provided by O_DIRECT.
> >
> > This patch series relies on fdatasync(2) (source) +
> > posix_fadvise(POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED) (destination) instead. I believe it is safe
> > for both NFS and SAN LUNs. Maybe we should use fsync(2) instead of
> > fdatasync(2) so that NFS has up-to-date inode metadata?
> >
> > Stefan Hajnoczi (2):
> > block/file-posix: implement bdrv_co_invalidate_cache() on Linux
> > block/file-posix: add x-check-page-cache=on|off option
> >
> > qapi/block-core.json | 7 ++-
> > block/file-posix.c | 146 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > 2 files changed, 150 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> Kevin: Are you happy with this series?
Yes, I think I am.
I'm still kind of concerned about misleading people into believing that
cache=writeback + live migration is generally safe when it's only in
special cases, but that's not really a concern about the code, but about
how we communicate the feature.
Kevin
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-27 16:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] block/file-posix: allow -drive cache.direct=off live migration Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-27 16:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] block/file-posix: implement bdrv_co_invalidate_cache() on Linux Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-27 16:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/2] block/file-posix: add x-check-page-cache=on|off option Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-03 7:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] block/file-posix: allow -drive cache.direct=off live migration Fam Zheng
2018-05-08 10:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-08 10:46 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-05-11 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
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