From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Wanpeng Li" <kernellwp@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RESEND v2] i386/kvm: add support for KVM_CAP_X86_DISABLE_EXITS
Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 01:12:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180512010007-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180419215320.GC29865@localhost.localdomain>
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 06:53:20PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:32:16PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 19/04/2018 21:56, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 05:48:57PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > >> On 17/04/2018 22:59, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > >>>> + if (disable_exits) {
> > >>>> + disable_exits &= (KVM_X86_DISABLE_EXITS_MWAIT |
> > >>>> + KVM_X86_DISABLE_EXITS_HLT |
> > >>>> + KVM_X86_DISABLE_EXITS_PAUSE);
> > >>>> + if (env->user_features[FEAT_KVM] & KVM_PV_UNHALT) {
> > >>>> + disable_exits &= ~KVM_X86_DISABLE_EXITS_HLT;
> > >>>> + }
> > >>>
> > >>> In the future, if we decide to enable kvm-pv-unhalt by default,
> > >>> should "-cpu ...,kvm-hint-dedicated=on" disable kvm-pv-unhalt
> > >>> automatically, or should we require an explicit
> > >>> "kvm-hint-dedicated=on,kvm-pv-unhalt=off" option?
> > >>
> > >> It should be automatic.
> > >>
> > >>> For today's defaults, this patch solves the problem, only one
> > >>> thing is missing before I give my R-b: we need to clearly
> > >>> document what exactly are the consequences and requirements of
> > >>> setting kvm-hint-dedicated=on (I'm not sure if the best place for
> > >>> this is qemu-options.hx, x86_cpu_list(), or somewhere else).
> > >>
> > >> I don't think we have a good place for this kind of documentation,
> > >> unfortunately. Right now it is mentioned in
> > >> Documentation/virtual/kvm/cpuid.txt.
> > >
> > > With this patch, the QEMU option will do more than just setting
> > > the CPUID bit, that's why I miss more detailed documentation on
> > > the QEMU side. But I agree we have no obvious place for that
> > > documentation.
> > >
> > > In the worst case we can just add a code comment on top of
> > > feature_word_info[FEAT_KVM_HINTS].feat_names warning that
> > > kvm-hint-dedicated won't just enable the flag on CPUID and has
> > > other side-effects.
> >
> > Maybe we should use "-realtime dedicated=on" instead of, or in addition
> > to kvm-hint-dedicated=on?
>
> Maybe it's a better idea than overloading an option that is only
> expected to control a CPUID bit.
Well -realtime would be a bit confusing in that it enables mlock by
default.
>From pure API point of view, hint-dedicated looks good since
it seems to say "optimize for a dedicated host CPU" and
it's a hint in that guests keep working if you violate this
slightly once in a while.
But I agree there's a problem: right now "kvm-" means "KVM PV"
as opposed to e.g. HV enlightened gusts.
So if you enable hyperv and also want to disable halt existing,
what then? What should kvm-hint-dedicated=on do?
So how about a new hint-dedicated=on cpu flag? We can have that set
kvm-hint-dedicated if kvm PV is enabled.
> --
> Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-11 22:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-17 8:24 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RESEND v2] i386/kvm: add support for KVM_CAP_X86_DISABLE_EXITS Wanpeng Li
2018-04-17 8:28 ` no-reply
2018-04-17 18:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-18 1:09 ` Wanpeng Li
2018-05-11 21:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-12 0:49 ` Wanpeng Li
2018-04-17 20:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-18 1:20 ` Wanpeng Li
2018-04-19 15:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-19 19:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-19 21:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-19 21:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-11 22:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-05-16 12:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-16 14:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-17 17:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-17 17:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-17 18:18 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-16 12:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-16 14:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-16 15:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-16 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-16 15:33 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-05-16 16:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-16 17:20 ` Eduardo Habkost
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