From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46239) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ7YZ-000724-T2 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:43:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ7YW-0004nn-QV for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:43:07 -0400 Received: from mx3-rdu2.redhat.com ([66.187.233.73]:56540 helo=mx1.redhat.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ7YW-0004na-KD for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:43:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 09:43:00 +0100 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Message-ID: <20180605084300.GF32286@redhat.com> Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= References: <20180603092749.107476-1-marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com> <20180604042928-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <23040757-b561-e0bf-a41d-38d3c44555ee@gmail.com> <20180605072746.v6xxabsbewiuw7ka@sirius.home.kraxel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180605072746.v6xxabsbewiuw7ka@sirius.home.kraxel.org> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gerd Hoffmann Cc: Marcel Apfelbaum , pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ehabkost@redhat.com, "Michael S. Tsirkin" On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:27:46AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > > > Add to that shortcuts like -cdrom > > > stop working, > > > > Maybe is fixable. > > Already fixed for ages. > > > I see marking Q35 as the default machine a first step. > > Maybe the better option is to go the arm route: Just don't define a > default, so users have to specify pc or q35. That will make them notice > there is a world beside 'pc', and we also avoid breaking things > silently. If QEMU removes the default, then libvirt will have to hardcode 'pc' as the default to maintain back compatibility, so I don't think that ends up as a net win Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|