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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, imammedo@redhat.com,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] hmp: Add info commands for preconfig
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:49:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180611174958.GP2661@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3flilan.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

* Markus Armbruster (armbru@redhat.com) wrote:
> "Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)" <dgilbert@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> >
> > Allow a bunch of the info commands to be used in preconfig.
> >
> > version, chardev, name, uuid,memdev, iothreads
> >   Were enabled in QMP in the previous patch from Igor
> 
> Yes, these are okay together with PATCH 4.
> 
> > status, hotpluggable_cpus
> >   Was enabled in the original allow-preconfig series
> 
> query-status looks okay to me.
> 
> > history
> >   is HMP specific
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > usbhost, qom-tree, numa
> >   Don't have a QMP equivalent
> 
> HMP commands without a QMP equivalent are okay if their functionality
> makes no sense in QMP, or is of use only for human users.
> 
> Example for "makes no sense in QMP": setting the current CPU, because a
> QMP monitor doesn't have a current CPU.
> 
> Examples for "is of use only for human users": HMP command "help", the
> integrated pocket calculator.

Right, but they do already exist; it's possible we may want to fix/add
QMP versions - but this series isn't about going through and fixing
existing stuff up.

> Now let's review the three commands:
> 
> * Gerd, why does "info usbhost" have no QMP equivalent?
> 
> * Eduardo, why does "info numa" have no QMP equivalent?
> 
> * "info qom-tree" is a recursive variant of qom-list that skips anything
>   but children.  This convenience command exists so you don't have to
>   filter and string together output from many qom-list.
> 
>   I think it stands to reason that if providing "info qom-tree" makes
>   sense, then so does qom-list (HMP and QMP).  If qom-list, then
>   qom-list-types, qom-list-properties, qom-get, and probably even
>   qom-set (I've always been suspicious of qom-set, but that has nothing
>   to do with preconfig state).
> 
>   It might make sense to split off the whole QOM shebang into a separate
>   patch.

People have been trying to add qom-get etc for quite a while (I tried a
couple of years ago); it gets stuck in type display issues.  I've not
directly seen a need for those other variants, but qom-get is something
I'd love to have, still that's a job for another patch.

'info qom-tree' is very very useful when debugging qemu to see what the
basic state we're building is; it's primarily for debugging.

Dave

> > Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-11 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-08 13:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Reenable hmp for preconfig mode Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-08 13:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] hmp: Add flag for preconfig commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-11  8:49   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 17:37     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-08 13:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/7] hmp: Allow help on " Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-11  9:00   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 10:27     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-11 13:18       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 18:49         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-12  7:03           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-08 13:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] hmp: Restrict auto-complete in preconfig Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-11  9:02   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 17:38     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-08 13:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/7] qmp: enable query-[chardev|version|name|uuid|iothreads|memdev] commands in preconfig state Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-11 11:28   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 17:43     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-12  7:05       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-08 13:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] hmp: Add info commands for preconfig Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-11 12:01   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 17:49     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-06-12  5:37       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-12 12:00         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-12 12:52           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-15 16:10             ` [Qemu-devel] Abandon our QMP first policy? (was: [PATCH v3 5/7] hmp: Add info commands for preconfig) Markus Armbruster
2018-06-15 16:32               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-15 18:44               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-18  6:36                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-20 14:48                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-12  6:43       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] hmp: Add info commands for preconfig Markus Armbruster
2018-06-12  8:49         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-13 13:47           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-13 13:53             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-13 16:59               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 18:40     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:33       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-12  7:00         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-13 13:44           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-12  7:57         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-08 13:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] hmp: add exit_preconfig Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-11 12:04   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 18:29     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-08 13:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 7/7] hmp: Allow HMP in preconfig state again Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-11 12:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Reenable hmp for preconfig mode Markus Armbruster
2018-06-11 12:09   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-11 12:44     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-14 13:17       ` Igor Mammedov

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