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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@gmail.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	jiang.biao2@zte.com.cn, wei.w.wang@intel.com,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] migration: do not wait if no free thread
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:15:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180612031503.GL7736@xz-mi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9915861-a0bd-aa94-8796-64465cbf937c@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:42:25AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06/11/2018 03:39 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 05:55:09PM +0800, guangrong.xiao@gmail.com wrote:
> > > From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
> > > 
> > > Instead of putting the main thread to sleep state to wait for
> > > free compression thread, we can directly post it out as normal
> > > page that reduces the latency and uses CPUs more efficiently
> > 
> > The feature looks good, though I'm not sure whether we should make a
> > capability flag for this feature since otherwise it'll be hard to
> > switch back to the old full-compression way no matter for what
> > reason.  Would that be a problem?
> > 
> 
> We assume this optimization should always be optimistic for all cases,
> particularly, we introduced the statistics of compression, then the user
> should adjust its parameters based on those statistics if anything works
> worse.

Ah, that'll be good.

> 
> Furthermore, we really need to improve this optimization if it hurts
> any case rather than leaving a option to the user. :)

Yeah, even if we make it a parameter/capability we can still turn that
on by default in new versions but keep the old behavior in old
versions. :) The major difference is that, then we can still _have_ a
way to compress every page. I'm just thinking if we don't have a
switch for that then if someone wants to measure e.g.  how a new
compression algo could help VM migration, then he/she won't be
possible to do that again since the numbers will be meaningless if
that bit is out of control on which page will be compressed.

Though I don't know how much use it'll bring...  But if that won't be
too hard, it still seems good.  Not a strong opinion.

> 
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
> > > ---
> > >   migration/ram.c | 34 +++++++++++++++-------------------
> > >   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/migration/ram.c b/migration/ram.c
> > > index 5bcbf7a9f9..0caf32ab0a 100644
> > > --- a/migration/ram.c
> > > +++ b/migration/ram.c
> > > @@ -1423,25 +1423,18 @@ static int compress_page_with_multi_thread(RAMState *rs, RAMBlock *block,
> > >       thread_count = migrate_compress_threads();
> > >       qemu_mutex_lock(&comp_done_lock);
> > 
> > Can we drop this lock in this case?
> 
> The lock is used to protect comp_param[].done...

IMHO it's okay?

It's used in this way:

  if (done) {
    done = false;
  }

So it only switches done from true->false.

And the compression thread is the only one that did the other switch
(false->true).  IMHO this special case will allow no-lock since as
long as "done" is true here then current thread will be the only one
to modify it, then no race at all.

> 
> Well, we are able to possibly remove it if we redesign the implementation, e.g, use atomic
> access for comp_param.done, however, it still can not work efficiently i believe. Please see
> more in the later reply to your comments in the cover-letter.

Will read that after it arrives; though I didn't receive a reply.
Have you missed clicking the "send" button? ;)

Regards,

-- 
Peter Xu

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-12  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04  9:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] migration: improve multithreads for compression and decompression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] migration: do not wait if no free thread guangrong.xiao
2018-06-11  7:39   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-12  2:42     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-12  3:15       ` Peter Xu [this message]
2018-06-13 15:43         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  3:19           ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/12] migration: fix counting normal page for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 15:51   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  3:32     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/12] migration: fix counting xbzrle cache_miss_rate guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 16:09   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-15 11:30   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/12] migration: introduce migration_update_rates guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 16:17   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  3:35     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-15 11:32     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/12] migration: show the statistics of compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04 22:31   ` Eric Blake
2018-06-06 12:44     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-13 16:25   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  6:48     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-16 19:01       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  8:51         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/12] migration: do not detect zero page for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-19  7:30   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  9:12     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28  9:36       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-29  3:50         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29  9:54         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-29  9:42       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-03  3:53         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-16 18:58           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  8:46             ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-22 16:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-23  7:12                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] migration: hold the lock only if it is really needed guangrong.xiao
2018-06-19  7:36   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  9:33     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 11:22       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-03  6:27         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-11  8:21       ` Peter Xu
2018-07-12  7:47         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-12  8:26           ` Peter Xu
2018-07-18  8:56             ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-18 10:18               ` Peter Xu
2018-07-13 17:44           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/12] migration: do not flush_compressed_data at the end of each iteration guangrong.xiao
2018-07-13 18:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  8:44     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] ring: introduce lockless ring buffer guangrong.xiao
2018-06-20  4:52   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 10:02     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28 11:55       ` Wei Wang
2018-06-29  3:55         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-03 15:55           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-20  5:55   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 14:00     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-20 12:38   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-29  7:30     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 13:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-03  7:31         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28 13:36   ` Jason Wang
2018-06-29  3:59     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29  6:15       ` Jason Wang
2018-06-29  7:47         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29  4:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-29  7:44       ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] migration: introduce lockless multithreads model guangrong.xiao
2018-06-20  6:52   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 14:25     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-13 16:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  7:12       ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/12] migration: use lockless Multithread model for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/12] migration: use lockless Multithread model for decompression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-11  8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] migration: improve multithreads for compression and decompression Peter Xu
2018-06-12  3:19   ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-12  5:36     ` Peter Xu

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