From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
Haozhong Zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
Junyan He <junyan.he@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 05/11] spapr: move memory hotplug size check into plug code
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:57:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613155759.4e78aec0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1bb1ffd0-2d96-09bb-09aa-348016e452c1@redhat.com>
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 13:05:53 +0200
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 13.06.2018 13:01, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:16:49 +0200
> > David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This might look like a step backwards, but it is not. get_memory_region()
> >> should not be called on uninititalized devices. In general, only
> >> properties should be access, but no "derived" satte like the memory
> >> region.
> >>
> >> 1. We need duplicate error checks if memdev is actually already set.
> >> realize() performs these checks, no need to duplicate.
> > it's not duplicate, if a machine doesn't access to memory region
> > in preplug time (hence doesn't check), then device itself would check it,
> > check won't be missed by accident.
> > (yep it's more code but more robust at the same time, so I'd leave it as is)
>
> Checking at two places for the same thing == duplicate checks
device models and there users are separate entities hence I consider
checks are separate. If user code can be written without adding extra checks
it's fine. But if device model doesn't have its own checks when and is
used in by new user code without checks also, it's going to break.
So it would be hard to convince me that consolidating error handling
between in-depended layers is a good idea in general and particularly
in this case.
I'd just drop this error cleanups altogether so that they won't get
in the way of actual changes you are aiming for (unless you have to do it).
> >> 2. This is bad practise as one can see when looking at the NVDIMM
> >> implemetation. The call does not return sane data before the device
> >> is realized. Although spapr does not use NVDIMM, conceptually it is
> >> wrong.
> >>
> >> So let's just move this call to the right place. We can then cleanup
> >> get_memory_region().
> > So I have to say no to this particular patch.
> > It is indeed a step backwards and it looks like workaround for broken nvdimm impl.
> >
> > Firstly, memdev property must be set for dimm device and
> > a user accessing memory region first must check for error.
> > More details below.
> >
>
> You assume that any class function can be called at any time. And I
> don't think this is the way to go.
Not any time, in the case of get_memory_region() it should work at
pre_plug() time as all the pieces for it are already there.
So we should make it work correctly for NVDIMM instead of
succumbing to it and running wild.
we should stick to canonical sequence
object_new -> set props -> realize
I don't see any reason to violate it in this case other than laziness.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-13 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-11 12:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/11] pc-dimm: next bunch of cleanups David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 01/11] pc-dimm: remove leftover "struct pc_dimms_capacity" David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 0:21 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 9:23 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 02/11] nvdimm: no need to overwrite get_vmstate_memory_region() David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 0:22 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 9:39 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 03/11] pc: factor out pc-dimm checks into pc_dimm_pre_plug() David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 0:28 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 10:07 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 04/11] hostmem: drop error variable from host_memory_backend_get_memory() David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 0:49 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 10:13 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 05/11] spapr: move memory hotplug size check into plug code David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 1:02 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 11:01 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-13 11:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-13 13:57 ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2018-06-14 7:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 06/11] pc-dimm: don't allow to access "size" before the device was realized David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 1:08 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 12:56 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-13 14:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-13 21:33 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-14 13:02 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-14 13:24 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-14 14:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-15 9:16 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-15 9:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-15 10:06 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 07/11] pc-dimm: get_memory_region() can never fail David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 1:10 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 13:03 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-13 14:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-13 14:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-14 15:00 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-14 15:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-15 9:59 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-15 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 08/11] pc-dimm: get_memory_region() will never return a NULL pointer David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 1:12 ` David Gibson
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 09/11] pc-dimm: remove pc_dimm_get_vmstate_memory_region() David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 1:29 ` David Gibson
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 10/11] pc-dimm: introduce and use pc_dimm_memory_pre_plug() David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 1:48 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 13:10 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-13 14:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-15 9:34 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-15 9:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-15 10:01 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-11 12:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 11/11] pc-dimm: assign and verify the "slot" property during pre_plug David Hildenbrand
2018-06-12 2:02 ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/11] pc-dimm: next bunch of cleanups Igor Mammedov
2018-06-13 14:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-15 10:59 ` David Hildenbrand
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