From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net,
libvir-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:05:08 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613180508.GD24764@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180605084300.GF32286@redhat.com>
Getting back to this discussion:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:43:00AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:27:46AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > > Add to that shortcuts like -cdrom
> > > > stop working,
> > >
> > > Maybe is fixable.
> >
> > Already fixed for ages.
> >
> > > I see marking Q35 as the default machine a first step.
> >
> > Maybe the better option is to go the arm route: Just don't define a
> > default, so users have to specify pc or q35. That will make them notice
> > there is a world beside 'pc', and we also avoid breaking things
> > silently.
>
> If QEMU removes the default, then libvirt will have to hardcode
> 'pc' as the default to maintain back compatibility, so I don't
> think that ends up as a net win
I believe there's consensus that applications blindly relying on
the default machine-type when creating a domain is a bad idea.
That said, can we deprecate this feature in libvirt, encourage
applications to always specify an explicit machine-type, thus
making it possible to deprecate the i440fx machine-types one day?
--
Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-13 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-03 9:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-04 1:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 12:24 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 12:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-04 18:09 ` John Snow
2018-06-04 12:54 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 13:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-04 13:26 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 17:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 18:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 16:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 16:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-04 18:40 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-04 21:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 18:29 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-05 7:27 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-05 8:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:06 ` [Qemu-devel] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine) Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-05 13:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:35 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-05 13:41 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Pavel Hrdina
2018-06-05 14:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-05 14:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 14:36 ` Pavel Hrdina
2018-06-05 14:14 ` Pavel Hrdina
2018-06-05 16:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 16:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-05 13:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:44 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-06-05 13:51 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 16:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 15:56 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-05 16:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 16:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 16:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 18:05 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2018-06-14 8:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-15 2:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-15 9:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-18 17:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-18 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-20 17:28 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-21 7:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-20 17:33 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-21 7:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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