From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>,
"Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
"John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>, "Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/6] docs: mention shared state protect for OOB
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:49:09 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180619044909.GH16790@xz-mi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wov02pk2.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 02:37:49PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Out-Of-Band handlers need to protect shared state if there is any.
> > Mention it in the document.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt | 3 +++
> > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt b/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt
> > index 1366228b2a..bee9de35df 100644
> > --- a/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt
> > +++ b/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt
> > @@ -680,6 +680,9 @@ OOB command handlers must satisfy the following conditions:
> Under normal QMP command execution, the following apply to each
> command:
>
> - They are executed in order,
> - They run only in main thread of QEMU,
> - They have the BQL taken during execution.
>
> Not this patch's fault, but this sounds awkward. Perhaps "They run with
> the BQL held."
>
> When a command is executed with OOB, the following changes occur:
>
> - They can be completed before a pending in-band command,
> - They run in a dedicated monitor thread,
> - They do not take the BQL during execution.
>
> "They run with the BQL not held".
>
> OOB command handlers must satisfy the following conditions:
>
> - It executes extremely fast,
>
> "It terminates quickly"
>
> - It does not take any lock, or, it can take very small locks if all
> critical regions also follow the rules for OOB command handler code,
>
> "It takes only "fast" locks, i.e. all critical sections protected by any
> lock it takes also satisfy the conditions for OOB command handler code."
> Maybe make it the last item.
>
> > - It does not invoke system calls that may block,
> > - It does not access guest RAM that may block when userfaultfd is
> > enabled for postcopy live migration.
>
> All these are corollaries of the first item. But that's okay.
>
> > +- It needs to protect any shared state, since as long as a command
> > + supports Out-Of-Band it means the handler can be run in parallel
> > + with the same handler running in the other thread.
>
> "in another thread"
>
> Not just the same handler is a potential problem. Any code accessing
> shared state from another thread is.
>
> "It needs" is not really a condition.
>
> Perhaps we can make this a separate paragraph rather than an additional
> item:
>
> The restrictions on locking limit access to shared state. Such
> access requires synchronization, but OOB commands can't take the BQL
> or any other "slow" lock.
Yes this looks good to me. I'll apply the rest of suggestions in my
next post along with this patch. I'll touch up the commit message a
bit too.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-19 4:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-15 1:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/6] monitor: enable OOB by default Peter Xu
2018-06-15 1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/6] chardev: comment details for CLOSED event Peter Xu
2018-06-15 12:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-18 15:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-15 1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/6] monitor: flush qmp responses when CLOSED Peter Xu
2018-06-15 8:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19 4:35 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-19 13:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-15 1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/6] tests: iotests: drop some stderr line Peter Xu
2018-06-15 8:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19 4:41 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-15 1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/6] docs: mention shared state protect for OOB Peter Xu
2018-06-15 12:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19 4:49 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2018-06-15 1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/6] monitor: remove "x-oob", turn oob on by default Peter Xu
2018-06-15 1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/6] Revert "tests: Add parameter to qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake" Peter Xu
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