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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>, "Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/6] docs: mention shared state protect for OOB
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:49:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180619044909.GH16790@xz-mi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wov02pk2.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 02:37:49PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > Out-Of-Band handlers need to protect shared state if there is any.
> > Mention it in the document.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt | 3 +++
> >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt b/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt
> > index 1366228b2a..bee9de35df 100644
> > --- a/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt
> > +++ b/docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.txt
> > @@ -680,6 +680,9 @@ OOB command handlers must satisfy the following conditions:
>    Under normal QMP command execution, the following apply to each
>    command:
> 
>    - They are executed in order,
>    - They run only in main thread of QEMU,
>    - They have the BQL taken during execution.
> 
> Not this patch's fault, but this sounds awkward.  Perhaps "They run with
> the BQL held."
> 
>    When a command is executed with OOB, the following changes occur:
> 
>    - They can be completed before a pending in-band command,
>    - They run in a dedicated monitor thread,
>    - They do not take the BQL during execution.
> 
> "They run with the BQL not held".
> 
>    OOB command handlers must satisfy the following conditions:
> 
>    - It executes extremely fast,
> 
> "It terminates quickly"
> 
>    - It does not take any lock, or, it can take very small locks if all
>      critical regions also follow the rules for OOB command handler code,
> 
> "It takes only "fast" locks, i.e. all critical sections protected by any
> lock it takes also satisfy the conditions for OOB command handler code."
> Maybe make it the last item.
> 
> >  - It does not invoke system calls that may block,
> >  - It does not access guest RAM that may block when userfaultfd is
> >    enabled for postcopy live migration.
> 
> All these are corollaries of the first item.  But that's okay.
> 
> > +- It needs to protect any shared state, since as long as a command
> > +  supports Out-Of-Band it means the handler can be run in parallel
> > +  with the same handler running in the other thread.
> 
> "in another thread"
> 
> Not just the same handler is a potential problem.  Any code accessing
> shared state from another thread is.
> 
> "It needs" is not really a condition.
> 
> Perhaps we can make this a separate paragraph rather than an additional
> item:
> 
>    The restrictions on locking limit access to shared state.  Such
>    access requires synchronization, but OOB commands can't take the BQL
>    or any other "slow" lock.

Yes this looks good to me.  I'll apply the rest of suggestions in my
next post along with this patch.  I'll touch up the commit message a
bit too.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-19  4:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-15  1:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/6] monitor: enable OOB by default Peter Xu
2018-06-15  1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/6] chardev: comment details for CLOSED event Peter Xu
2018-06-15 12:49   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-18 15:55   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-15  1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/6] monitor: flush qmp responses when CLOSED Peter Xu
2018-06-15  8:11   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19  4:35     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-19 13:40       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-15  1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/6] tests: iotests: drop some stderr line Peter Xu
2018-06-15  8:13   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19  4:41     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-15  1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/6] docs: mention shared state protect for OOB Peter Xu
2018-06-15 12:37   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19  4:49     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2018-06-15  1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/6] monitor: remove "x-oob", turn oob on by default Peter Xu
2018-06-15  1:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/6] Revert "tests: Add parameter to qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake" Peter Xu

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