From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>,
"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, aaron.f.brown@intel.com,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
Venu Busireddy <venu.busireddy@oracle.com>,
vijay.balakrishna@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH] qemu: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit to virtio_net
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 17:11:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180620170904-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180620115359.1a3bf6fb.cohuck@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:53:59AM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:32:06 +0300
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:54:53PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > Sorry about dragging mainframes into this, but this will only work for
> > > homogenous device coupling, not for heterogenous. Consider my vfio-pci
> > > + virtio-net-ccw example again: The guest cannot find out that the two
> > > belong together by checking some group ID, it has to either use the MAC
> > > or some needs-to-be-architectured property.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, we could propose that mechanism as pci-only, which means
> > > we can rely on mechanisms that won't necessarily work on non-pci
> > > transports. (FWIW, I don't see a use case for using vfio-ccw to pass
> > > through a network card anytime in the near future, due to the nature of
> > > network cards currently in use on s390.)
> >
> > That's what it boils down to, yes. If there's need to have this for
> > non-pci devices, then we should put it in config space.
> > Cornelia, what do you think?
> >
>
> I think the only really useful config on s390 is the vfio-pci network
> card coupled with a virtio-net-ccw device: Using an s390 network card
> via vfio-ccw is out due to the nature of the s390 network cards, and
> virtio-ccw is the default transport (virtio-pci is not supported on any
> enterprise distro AFAIK).
>
> For this, having a uuid in the config space could work (vfio-pci
> devices have a config space by virtue of being pci devices, and
> virtio-net-ccw devices have a config space by virtue of being virtio
> devices -- ccw devices usually don't have that concept).
OK so this calls for adding such a field generally (it's
device agnostic right now).
How would you suggest doing that?
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-20 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-07 23:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit to virtio_net Sridhar Samudrala
2018-06-05 1:41 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-05 2:06 ` Jason Wang
2018-06-06 18:17 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-06 18:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Ján Tomko
2018-06-06 19:39 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-06 18:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 12:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 20:20 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-05 20:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 21:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-06-05 21:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 22:09 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-12 11:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-14 0:56 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-06 2:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Wang
2018-06-12 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 0:20 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-13 2:41 ` Jason Wang
2018-06-13 2:38 ` Jason Wang
2018-06-13 4:24 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-13 5:40 ` Jason Wang
2018-06-21 18:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 1:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 2:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 19:43 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 21:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 22:25 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-11 17:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-12 1:54 ` Jason Wang
2018-06-12 2:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-12 5:02 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-12 11:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 0:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-14 1:02 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-14 10:02 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-15 1:57 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-15 11:48 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-15 17:06 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-19 10:54 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-19 20:09 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-20 14:34 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-20 19:59 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-19 20:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-20 9:53 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-20 14:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-06-20 16:06 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-20 19:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-21 14:59 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-21 18:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 15:09 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-22 19:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 20:21 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 21:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 21:57 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-23 0:05 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-26 15:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 17:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-27 9:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-25 9:55 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 1:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 11:55 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 13:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 21:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-27 10:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-22 1:21 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 2:25 ` Venu Busireddy
2018-06-22 2:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 20:00 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 20:03 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 21:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 21:51 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 23:40 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-23 0:17 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-24 1:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-25 17:54 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-26 1:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 15:17 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 16:03 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 17:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 23:38 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-27 0:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-27 6:21 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-27 6:49 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-27 7:03 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-15 2:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-15 9:32 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-15 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-18 13:27 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-14 12:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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