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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, libvir-list@redhat.com,
	Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	pkrempa@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 19:54:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180622175359.GJ4366@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180622154042.GS23296@redhat.com>

Am 22.06.2018 um 17:40 hat Daniel P. Berrangé geschrieben:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 04:25:13PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > This was in fact one release longer than our deprecation policy says.
> > Are we serious about the deprecation policy or aren't we?
> > 
> > I might consider reverting a change if it turned out that this requires
> > some massive work in libvirt. But I think this one should be rather easy
> > to fix in libvirt until 3.0 is released.
> 
> I've got a patch mostly ready that converts libvirt to setting these things
> on the frontend device, however, I've got some queries...
> 
>  - usb-storage  - doesn't appear to support geometry or werror/rerror
> 
>    Will we loose functionality by stopping use of -drive for werror
> 
>    Loosing geometry feels relevant too, unless it was already ignored
>    when set opf -drive ?

You're right, usb-storage doesn't allow using -device to specify these,
and it does use the values from -drive.

For werror/rerror, we should clearly implement the option forwarding to
scsi-disk so that you can make use of it.

I'm not sure how sane specifying a non-standard CHS geometry for a USB
stick actually is. As an additional difficulty, usb-storage internally
creates a scsi-disk device (not scsi-hd), which is also considered
legacy and doesn't support the geometry options either, so it's not just
simple forwarding. We removed an actual feature there, but that feature
was probably never intended nor used.

If someone comes up with a compelling reason why they really need to
configure the CHS geometry of their USB sticks, I guess we can do it. My
real USB sticks I tested don't even support MODE_PAGE_HD_GEOMETRY
(though they have MODE_PAGE_FLEXIBLE_DISK_GEOMETRY).

>  - SD card - requires -drive with if=sd, no -device support AFAICT
> 
>    Will we loose functionality be stopping use of -drive for if=sd, or
>    is this stuff ignored anyway ?

This was already silently ignored.

>  - ide-cd/scsi-id - doesn't support geometry
> 
>    Presumably becuase its irrelevant for CDs

Yes, geometry has no effect for CDs.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-22 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-15 14:20 [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/26] Block layer patches Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 01/26] qemu-img: Fix assert when mapping unaligned raw file Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/26] iotests: Add test 221 to catch qemu-img map regression Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 03/26] jobs: fix stale wording Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 04/26] jobs: fix verb references in docs Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 05/26] rbd: Drop deprecated -drive parameter "filename" Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 06/26] iscsi: " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 07/26] block: Add block-specific QDict header Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 08/26] qobject: Move block-specific qdict code to block-qdict.c Kevin Wolf
2018-06-19 19:29   ` Eric Blake
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 09/26] block: Fix -blockdev for certain non-string scalars Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 10/26] block: Fix -drive " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 11/26] block: Clean up a misuse of qobject_to() in .bdrv_co_create_opts() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 12/26] block: Factor out qobject_input_visitor_new_flat_confused() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 13/26] block: Make remaining uses of qobject input visitor more robust Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 14/26] block-qdict: Simplify qdict_flatten_qdict() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 15/26] block-qdict: Tweak qdict_flatten_qdict(), qdict_flatten_qlist() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 16/26] block-qdict: Clean up qdict_crumple() a bit Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 17/26] block-qdict: Simplify qdict_is_list() some Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 18/26] check-block-qdict: Rename qdict_flatten()'s variables for clarity Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 19/26] check-block-qdict: Cover flattening of empty lists and dictionaries Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 20/26] block: Fix -blockdev / blockdev-add for empty objects and arrays Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 21/26] rbd: New parameter auth-client-required Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 22/26] rbd: New parameter key-secret Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 23/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive geometry options Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 24/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option addr Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 11:38   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 12:51     ` [Qemu-devel] request a revert for "block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial" (was block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial) Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 20:08       ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 12:55     ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 13:36       ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:00         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:02         ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 14:25         ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 14:31           ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25  9:53             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 11:41               ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-25 11:45                 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-02  8:04                   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 10:53                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-03 11:22                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-03 11:32                         ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 11:35                           ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-03 12:38                             ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-03 11:35                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-04 13:02                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-04 13:34                             ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 13:43                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-04 14:23                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 13:52                               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-04 13:58                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-04 16:14                               ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06 11:11                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-06 14:56                                   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-06 15:05                                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-06 15:10                                     ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-09  6:33                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-09 11:08                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-09 11:17                                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-12  6:32                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 15:47                                               ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-13 11:35                                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-16 10:06                                                   ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2018-07-16  9:33                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-09  7:29                                     ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-10  5:59                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 14:22                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-10 14:38                                           ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-12  6:38                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12  6:51                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12  7:48                                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-12  9:05                                                   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-12 11:14                                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12  7:00                                               ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-12 11:19                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 14:39                                           ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-10 15:01                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-10 15:24                                               ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-11  6:53                                                 ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-11  7:24                                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-12  6:40                                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12  6:59                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12  7:19                                                   ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-12 11:33                                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 17:01                                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-11 13:48                                               ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2018-07-10 15:09                                           ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-10 16:59                                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-09  6:58                                   ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-09 11:58                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-22 14:38           ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:47             ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-22 15:01             ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 15:50               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 15:40           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 17:54             ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-06-25 11:18               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 10:01             ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-25 10:31               ` Peter Krempa
2018-06-25 10:35                 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-25  7:44           ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 14:19       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-22 14:25         ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 14:30           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 15:00             ` Eric Blake
2018-06-25  7:16       ` Peter Krempa
2018-06-25  8:23         ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-25  9:04           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 26/26] block: Remove dead deprecation warning code Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 16:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/26] Block layer patches Peter Maydell

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