From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com,
Ben Warren <ben@skyportsystems.com>,
qemu-trivial@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] qemu-options: Do not show -enable-kvm and -enable-hax in the docs anymore
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:56:44 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180626125644.GS7451@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180626095004.7e92fdaa.cohuck@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 09:50:04AM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 06:40:56 +0200
> Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On 25.06.2018 20:26, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On 25/06/2018 19:30, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > >>>> Attentive distros could even replace the wrapper script by a link.
> > >>> If they are okay with replacing the "KVM only" semantics with "KVM or
> > >>> TCG", which I think is generally worse.
> > >>
> > >> If we can't get agreement on what's the right default for each
> > >> QEMU binary, I think that's yet another reason to document that
> > >> upstream QEMU won't guarantee ABI compatibility if -accel is
> > >> omitted.
> > >
> > > Before that we should ask what the benefit is in changing the default
> > > for qemu-system-*. Nobody is using it in practice to start QEMU with
> > > KVM enabled...
> >
> > That's certainly not true. I've seen a couple of times already that
> > people ask on IRC why their guests are running so slow, and if you ask
> > them about their command line, it's obvious that they simply were not
> > aware of "-accel" / "-enable-kvm" yet.
> >
> > <semi-sarcastic>
> > Maybe we simply should add a "--verbose" command line option that people
> > can use to diagnose their problems:
> >
> > $ qemu-system-x86_64 --verbose
> > QEMU emulator version 2.12.50
> > Using 'tcg' accelerator. Use '-accel kvm' to speed things up.
> > Machine type is 'pc-i440fx-3.0'. Use 'q35' for a more modern machine.
> > ....
> > </semi-sarcastic>
>
> Not sure how serious you meant that, but I actually quite like the
> idea :)
Also, this mode could be enabled by default if stderr is a tty.
--
Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-26 12:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-13 5:05 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Clean up accelerator options Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Replace '-machine accel=xyz' with '-accel xyz' Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 12:20 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-13 12:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 12:53 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 13:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 14:12 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 16:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Replace '-enable-kvm' with '-accel kvm' in docs and help texts Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 12:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] qemu-options: Improve the documentation of '-accel' and '-machine accel=...' Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] qemu-options: Do not show -enable-kvm and -enable-hax in the docs anymore Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 12:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 13:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-13 15:11 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 15:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-13 15:44 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 16:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19 15:15 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-19 16:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-22 18:11 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-22 19:19 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 19:35 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-22 21:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-25 6:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-25 10:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-25 17:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-25 18:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-25 19:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 5:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-26 12:29 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 13:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-26 16:06 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 16:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 8:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-27 14:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 4:40 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-26 7:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 12:56 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2018-06-26 16:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 8:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 13:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Clean up accelerator options Stefan Hajnoczi
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