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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, aaron.f.brown@intel.com,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	Venu Busireddy <venu.busireddy@oracle.com>,
	vijay.balakrishna@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH] qemu: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit to virtio_net
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:17:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180626171732.5038f53f.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180626044650-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 04:50:25 +0300
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:54:09AM -0700, Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> > > > > > Might not neccessarily be something wrong, but it's very limited to
> > > > > > prohibit the MAC of VF from changing when enslaved by failover.  
> > > > > You mean guest changing MAC? I'm not sure why we prohibit that.  
> > > > I think Sridhar and Jiri might be better person to answer it. My
> > > > impression was that sync'ing the MAC address change between all 3
> > > > devices is challenging, as the failover driver uses MAC address to
> > > > match net_device internally.  
> > 
> > Yes. The MAC address is assigned by the hypervisor and it needs to manage the movement
> > of the MAC between the PF and VF.  Allowing the guest to change the MAC will require
> > synchronization between the hypervisor and the PF/VF drivers. Most of the VF drivers
> > don't allow changing guest MAC unless it is a trusted VF.  
> 
> OK but it's a policy thing. Maybe it's a trusted VF. Who knows?
> For example I can see host just
> failing VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MAC_ADDR_SET if it wants to block it.
> I'm not sure why VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY has to block it in the guest.
> 

So, what I get from this is that QEMU needs to be able to control all
of standby, uuid, and mac to accommodate the different setups
(respectively have libvirt/management software set it up). Is the host
able to find out respectively define whether a VF is trusted?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-26 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07 23:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit to virtio_net Sridhar Samudrala
2018-06-05  1:41 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-05  2:06   ` Jason Wang
2018-06-06 18:17     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-06 18:52       ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Ján Tomko
2018-06-06 19:39         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-06 18:53       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 12:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 20:20     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-05 20:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 21:16     ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-06-05 21:32       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 22:09         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-12 11:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-14  0:56             ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-06  2:29     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Wang
2018-06-12 11:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13  0:20         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-13  2:41           ` Jason Wang
2018-06-13  2:38         ` Jason Wang
2018-06-13  4:24           ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-13  5:40             ` Jason Wang
2018-06-21 18:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22  1:07                 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-06-22  2:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 19:43                     ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 21:47                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 22:25                         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:28                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-11 17:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-12  1:54   ` Jason Wang
2018-06-12  2:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-12  5:02       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-12 11:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13  0:08           ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-14  1:02             ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-14 10:02               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-15  1:57                 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-15 11:48                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-15 17:06                     ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-19 10:54                       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-19 20:09                         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-20 14:34                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-20 19:59                             ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-19 20:32                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-20  9:53                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-20 14:11                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-20 16:06                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-20 19:48                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-21 14:59                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-21 18:20                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 15:09                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-22 19:05                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 20:21                                           ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 21:32                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 21:57                                               ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:33                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-23  0:05                                                   ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-26 15:08                                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 17:50                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-27  9:11                                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-25  9:55                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26  1:46                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 11:55                                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 13:54                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 21:43                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-27 10:10                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-22  1:21                                     ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22  2:25                                       ` Venu Busireddy
2018-06-22  2:32                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 20:00                                         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 20:03                                           ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 21:29                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 21:51                                               ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:25                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 23:40                                                   ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-23  0:17                                                     ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-24  1:45                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-25 17:54                                                       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-26  1:50                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 15:17                                                           ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-06-26 15:38                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 16:03                                                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 17:42                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 23:38                                                           ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-27  0:29                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-27  6:21                                                               ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-27  6:49                                                                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-27  7:03                                                                   ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-15  2:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-15  9:32                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-15 12:31                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-18 13:27                       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-14 12:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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