From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
kwolf@redhat.com, mreitz@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] block/fleecing-filter: new filter driver for fleecing
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 14:35:15 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180702063515.GE26002@lemon.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ecd1901-4148-6dc5-667d-d3c13260f534@redhat.com>
On Fri, 06/29 12:24, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 06/29/2018 10:15 AM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > We need to synchronize backup job with reading from fleecing image
> > like it was done in block/replication.c.
> >
> > Otherwise, the following situation is theoretically possible:
> >
>
> Grammar suggestions:
>
> > 1. client start reading
>
> client starts reading
>
> > 2. client understand, that there is no corresponding cluster in
> > fleecing image
> > 3. client is going to read from backing file (i.e. active image)
>
> client sees that no corresponding cluster has been allocated in the fleecing
> image, so the request is forwarded to the backing file
>
> > 4. guest writes to active image
> > 5. this write is stopped by backup(sync=none) and cluster is copied to
> > fleecing image
> > 6. guest write continues...
> > 7. and client reads _new_ (or partly new) date from active image
>
> Interesting race. Can it actually happen, or does our read code already
> serialize writes to the same area while a read is underway?
Yes, I wonder why wait_serialising_requests() is not enough. If it's possible,
can we have a test case (with help of blkdebug, for example)?
>
> In short, I see what problem you are claiming exists: the moment the client
> starts reading from the backing file, that portion of the backing file must
> remain unchanged until after the client is done reading. But I don't know
> enough details of the block layer to know if this is actually a problem, or
> if adding the new filter is just overhead.
Fam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-02 6:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-29 15:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] image fleecing Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/3] blockdev-backup: enable non-root nodes for backup source Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:13 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29 17:31 ` John Snow
2018-06-29 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] block/fleecing-filter: new filter driver for fleecing Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:24 ` Eric Blake
2018-07-02 6:35 ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2018-07-02 11:27 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-02 11:47 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:30 ` John Snow
2018-06-29 17:40 ` Eric Blake
2018-07-02 12:09 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 11:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 11:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 16:11 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 18:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 14:07 ` Max Reitz
2018-07-02 11:57 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 11:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-29 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] qemu-iotests: Image fleecing test case 222 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 15:31 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:58 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29 21:04 ` John Snow
2018-07-02 6:45 ` Fam Zheng
2018-07-02 12:58 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 16:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] image fleecing John Snow
2018-06-29 17:36 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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