From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org, eblake@redhat.com,
armbru@redhat.com, mreitz@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com,
den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] block/fleecing-filter: new filter driver for fleecing
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:22:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180703112211.GC3812@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f766c07-dfe5-1886-5635-f76780220757@virtuozzo.com>
Am 02.07.2018 um 13:57 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
> 29.06.2018 20:30, John Snow wrote:
> >
> > On 06/29/2018 11:15 AM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > > We need to synchronize backup job with reading from fleecing image
> > > like it was done in block/replication.c.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, the following situation is theoretically possible:
> > >
> > > 1. client start reading
> > > 2. client understand, that there is no corresponding cluster in
> > > fleecing image
> > I don't think the client refocuses the read, but QEMU does. (the client
> > has no idea if it is reading from the fleecing node or the backing file.)
> >
> > ... but understood:
> >
> > > 3. client is going to read from backing file (i.e. active image)
> > > 4. guest writes to active image
> > My question here is if QEMU will allow reads and writes to interleave in
> > general. If the client is reading from the backing file, the active
> > image, will QEMU allow a write to modify that data before we're done
> > getting that data?
>
> If I understand correctly: yes. Physical drives allows intersecting
> operations too and there no guarantee on result. We have serializing
> requests, but in general only unaligned requests are marked serializing.
Copy on read (in the context of image streaming) is the feature which
actually introduced it. It has some similarities with the backup job, so
the idea of using it for backup, too, isn't exactly revolutionary.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-03 11:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-29 15:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] image fleecing Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/3] blockdev-backup: enable non-root nodes for backup source Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:13 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29 17:31 ` John Snow
2018-06-29 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] block/fleecing-filter: new filter driver for fleecing Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:24 ` Eric Blake
2018-07-02 6:35 ` Fam Zheng
2018-07-02 11:27 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-02 11:47 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:30 ` John Snow
2018-06-29 17:40 ` Eric Blake
2018-07-02 12:09 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 11:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 11:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 16:11 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 18:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 14:07 ` Max Reitz
2018-07-02 11:57 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-07-03 11:22 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-06-29 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] qemu-iotests: Image fleecing test case 222 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 15:31 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:58 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29 21:04 ` John Snow
2018-07-02 6:45 ` Fam Zheng
2018-07-02 12:58 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 16:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] image fleecing John Snow
2018-06-29 17:36 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-06-29 17:52 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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