From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
Libvirt <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 12:17:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180709111701.GF23731@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180709130838.16f011a4.cohuck@redhat.com>
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 01:08:38PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 08:33:05 +0200
> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> >
> > > On 6 July 2018 at 15:56, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >> Am 06.07.2018 um 13:11 hat Cornelia Huck geschrieben:
> > >>> That way, we can still easily remove old cruft (case (a)), but still
> > >>> accommodate cases like this (case (c)). The obvious drawback is that
> > >>> we'd need someone to curate the deprecation watchlist, to poke the
> > >>> users we're waiting for, and probably remove anyway after some time if
> > >>> they don't get their act together.
> > >>
> > >> The problem is that things are only starting to move after two releases
> > >> have passed.
> > >
> > > Right, so clearly just "put a note in the documentation" isn't
> > > sufficient advertisement/prodding of things going away.
> >
> > Yes. Ideas on more forceful notification have been tossed around, we
> > just have to act on them.
> >
> > > (Also, two
> > > releases is pretty fast. Many of our users will be using distro
> > > packaged versions of QEMU which will lag further behind than
> > > bleeding-edge users. The system version of QEMU on my desktop
> > > machine is 2.5...)
> >
> > If you consume QEMU in a way that's impacted by the changes the
> > deprecation policy guards, you have two sane options:
> >
> > * Track upstream deprecation, either continuously, or at least right
> > after a QEMU release. Since 2.10, they're collected in qemu-doc
> > appendix "Deprecated features".
>
> Can we draw more attention to this in any way? Point it out prominently
> in the release notes? Send a list to known consumers (e.g. libvirt) on
> release time?
Yes, we should all newly deprecated stuff in the release notes.
For libvirt, I think whenever something is proposed for deprecation
we could just CC libvir-list, or ask one of the libvirt people to
confirm its not being used. If it is, then we should file BZ against
libvirt.
Regards,
Daniel
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Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-15 14:20 [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/26] Block layer patches Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 01/26] qemu-img: Fix assert when mapping unaligned raw file Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/26] iotests: Add test 221 to catch qemu-img map regression Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 03/26] jobs: fix stale wording Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 04/26] jobs: fix verb references in docs Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 05/26] rbd: Drop deprecated -drive parameter "filename" Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 06/26] iscsi: " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 07/26] block: Add block-specific QDict header Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 08/26] qobject: Move block-specific qdict code to block-qdict.c Kevin Wolf
2018-06-19 19:29 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 09/26] block: Fix -blockdev for certain non-string scalars Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 10/26] block: Fix -drive " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 11/26] block: Clean up a misuse of qobject_to() in .bdrv_co_create_opts() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 12/26] block: Factor out qobject_input_visitor_new_flat_confused() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 13/26] block: Make remaining uses of qobject input visitor more robust Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 14/26] block-qdict: Simplify qdict_flatten_qdict() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 15/26] block-qdict: Tweak qdict_flatten_qdict(), qdict_flatten_qlist() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 16/26] block-qdict: Clean up qdict_crumple() a bit Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 17/26] block-qdict: Simplify qdict_is_list() some Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 18/26] check-block-qdict: Rename qdict_flatten()'s variables for clarity Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 19/26] check-block-qdict: Cover flattening of empty lists and dictionaries Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 20/26] block: Fix -blockdev / blockdev-add for empty objects and arrays Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 21/26] rbd: New parameter auth-client-required Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 22/26] rbd: New parameter key-secret Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 23/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive geometry options Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 24/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option addr Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 11:38 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 12:51 ` [Qemu-devel] request a revert for "block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial" (was block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial) Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 13:36 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:00 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 14:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 14:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 9:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 11:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-25 11:45 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-02 8:04 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 10:53 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-03 11:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-03 11:32 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 11:35 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-03 12:38 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-03 11:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-04 13:02 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-04 13:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 13:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-04 14:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 13:52 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-04 13:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-04 16:14 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06 11:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-06 14:56 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-06 15:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-06 15:10 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-09 6:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-09 11:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-09 11:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2018-07-12 6:32 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 15:47 ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-13 11:35 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-16 10:06 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2018-07-16 9:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-09 7:29 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-10 5:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 14:22 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-10 14:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-12 6:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 6:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 7:48 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-12 9:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-12 11:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 7:00 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-12 11:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 14:39 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-10 15:01 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-10 15:24 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-11 6:53 ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-11 7:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-12 6:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 6:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 7:19 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-12 11:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 17:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-11 13:48 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2018-07-10 15:09 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-10 16:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-09 6:58 ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-09 11:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-22 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:47 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-22 15:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 15:50 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 15:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 17:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-25 11:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 10:01 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-25 10:31 ` Peter Krempa
2018-06-25 10:35 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-25 7:44 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 14:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-22 14:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 14:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 15:00 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-25 7:16 ` Peter Krempa
2018-06-25 8:23 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-25 9:04 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 26/26] block: Remove dead deprecation warning code Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 16:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/26] Block layer patches Peter Maydell
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