From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.ibm.com>,
Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
Libvirt <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:24:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180711092411.0dbc9874.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28ef476f-7811-91ef-6c77-515f07235e7a@redhat.com>
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 08:53:20 +0200
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 10.07.2018 17:24, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 17:01:22 +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >> So, from that I gather that a hard failure would be the easiest for
> >> libvirt to detect (and everything else would become complicated really
> >> quickly), right?
> >
> > People start complaining only when stuff breaks. If anything is optional
> > people will usually not enable it. That makes any non-mandatory option
> > not work in most cases.
>
> So would it help if we "invert" the logic, i.e. deprecated_report()
> would do exit(1) by default? Then, if the (human) users still want to
> continue with the deprecated option, they have to add a
> "--ignore-deprecation" command line switch to make QEMU start
> successfully...
That is sure to get the attention of even 'normal' users, but we'd have
to make it really, really obvious (1) how to get it working again and
(2) what other things we'd like them to do (like 'if you are using a
management tool, please let them know about it'). I'm fearing a lot of
'I followed that ancient guide, and it does not work' type of reports,
though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-11 7:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-15 14:20 [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/26] Block layer patches Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 01/26] qemu-img: Fix assert when mapping unaligned raw file Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/26] iotests: Add test 221 to catch qemu-img map regression Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 03/26] jobs: fix stale wording Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 04/26] jobs: fix verb references in docs Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 05/26] rbd: Drop deprecated -drive parameter "filename" Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 06/26] iscsi: " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 07/26] block: Add block-specific QDict header Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 08/26] qobject: Move block-specific qdict code to block-qdict.c Kevin Wolf
2018-06-19 19:29 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 09/26] block: Fix -blockdev for certain non-string scalars Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 10/26] block: Fix -drive " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 11/26] block: Clean up a misuse of qobject_to() in .bdrv_co_create_opts() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 12/26] block: Factor out qobject_input_visitor_new_flat_confused() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 13/26] block: Make remaining uses of qobject input visitor more robust Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 14/26] block-qdict: Simplify qdict_flatten_qdict() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 15/26] block-qdict: Tweak qdict_flatten_qdict(), qdict_flatten_qlist() Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 16/26] block-qdict: Clean up qdict_crumple() a bit Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 17/26] block-qdict: Simplify qdict_is_list() some Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 18/26] check-block-qdict: Rename qdict_flatten()'s variables for clarity Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 19/26] check-block-qdict: Cover flattening of empty lists and dictionaries Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 20/26] block: Fix -blockdev / blockdev-add for empty objects and arrays Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 21/26] rbd: New parameter auth-client-required Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 22/26] rbd: New parameter key-secret Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 23/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive geometry options Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 24/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option addr Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 11:38 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 12:51 ` [Qemu-devel] request a revert for "block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial" (was block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial) Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/26] block: Remove deprecated -drive option serial Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 13:36 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:00 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 14:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 14:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 9:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 11:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-25 11:45 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-02 8:04 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 10:53 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-03 11:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-03 11:32 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-03 11:35 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-03 12:38 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-03 11:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-04 13:02 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-04 13:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 13:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-04 14:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-04 13:52 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-04 13:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-04 16:14 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06 11:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-06 14:56 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-06 15:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-06 15:10 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-09 6:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-09 11:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-09 11:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-12 6:32 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 15:47 ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-13 11:35 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-16 10:06 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2018-07-16 9:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-09 7:29 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-10 5:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 14:22 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-10 14:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-12 6:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 6:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 7:48 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-12 9:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-12 11:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 7:00 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-12 11:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 14:39 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-10 15:01 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-10 15:24 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-11 6:53 ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-11 7:24 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-07-12 6:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 6:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 7:19 ` Peter Krempa
2018-07-12 11:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-10 17:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-11 13:48 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2018-07-10 15:09 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-10 16:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-07-09 6:58 ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-09 11:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-22 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 14:47 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-22 15:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-22 15:50 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-06-22 15:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 17:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-06-25 11:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-25 10:01 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-25 10:31 ` Peter Krempa
2018-06-25 10:35 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-25 7:44 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 14:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-22 14:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 14:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-22 15:00 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-25 7:16 ` Peter Krempa
2018-06-25 8:23 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-25 9:04 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-15 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 26/26] block: Remove dead deprecation warning code Kevin Wolf
2018-06-15 16:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/26] Block layer patches Peter Maydell
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