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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Balloon inhibit enhancements
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:49:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180730182951-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180730090137.15917879@t450s.home>

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 09:01:37AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > but I don't think it can be done
> > > atomically with respect to inflight DMA of a physical device where we
> > > cannot halt the device without interfering with its state.  
> > 
> > Guests never add pages to the balloon if they are under DMA,
> > so that's fine - there's never an in-flight DMA, if
> > there is guest is buggy and it's ok to crash it.
> 
> It's not the ballooned page that I'm trying to note, it's the entire
> remainder of the SubRegion which needs to be unmapped to remove that
> one page.  It's more compatible from an IOMMU perspective in that we're
> only unmapping with the same granularity with which we mapped, but it's
> incompatible with inflight DMA as we have no idea what DMA targets may
> reside within the remainder of that mapping while it's temporarily
> unmapped.

I see. Yes you need to be careful to replace the host IOMMU PTE
atomically. Same applies to vIOMMU though - if guest changes
a PTE atomically host should do the same.

--
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-30 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-17 22:47 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Balloon inhibit enhancements Alex Williamson
2018-07-17 22:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/3] balloon: Allow nested inhibits Alex Williamson
2018-07-18  6:40   ` Peter Xu
2018-07-18 16:37     ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-19  4:45       ` Peter Xu
2018-07-17 22:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/3] kvm: Use inhibit to prevent ballooning without synchronous mmu Alex Williamson
2018-07-17 22:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/3] vfio: Inhibit ballooning Alex Williamson
2018-07-18  6:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] Balloon inhibit enhancements Peter Xu
2018-07-18  9:36   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-19  4:49     ` Peter Xu
2018-07-19  8:42       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-19  9:30         ` Peter Xu
2018-07-19 15:31       ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-18 16:31   ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-19  5:40     ` Peter Xu
2018-07-19 15:01       ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-20  2:56         ` Peter Xu
2018-07-30 13:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-30 13:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 13:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-30 14:46       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 14:58         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-30 15:05           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-30 14:39   ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-30 14:51     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-30 15:01       ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-30 15:49         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-07-30 16:42           ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-30 17:35             ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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