From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, fullmanet@gmail.com,
qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qemu-img: Add dd seek= option
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:15:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180816071515.GC5511@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8c5df8d-7ae2-8ddc-aa71-38ec06b79988@redhat.com>
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Am 16.08.2018 um 04:49 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> On 2018-08-16 04:39, Eric Blake wrote:
> > If convert were more powerful, I'd be fine dropping 'qemu-img dd' after
> > a proper deprecation period.
>
> Technically it has those features already, with the raw block driver's
> offset and size parameters.
In a way, yes. It requires you to precreate the target image, though,
because --target-image-opts requires -n.
We'll probably want to fix something in this area anyway because in the
common case, you already need those options to even precreate the image,
and qemu-img create doesn't support open options for the protocol layer
either (unlike blockdev-create).
> >> ((That gave me a good idea. Actually, it's probably not such a good
> >> idea, but I guess I'll do it in my spare time anyway. A qemu-img fuse
> >> might be nice which represents an image as a raw image at some mount
> >> point. Benefits over qemu-nbd: (1) You don't need root, (2) you don't
> >> need to type modprobe nbd.))
> >
> > So the kernel->userspace translation would be happening via the FUSE
> > interface instead of the NBD interface. Data still bounces around just
> > as much, but it might be a fun project. Does fuse behave well when
> > serving exactly one file at the mountpoint, rather than the more typical
> > file system rooted in a directory? NBD at least has the benefit of
> > claiming to be a block device all along, rather than complicating the
> > user interface with POSIX file system rules (which you'll be bending,
> > because you are serving exactly one file instead of a system).
To make it more real, you could expose a snapshots/ subdirectory. Or
maybe better not.
> Well, but I can just pretend my FUSE file is a block device, no?
>
> Also, I just discovered something really interesting: FUSE allows you to
> specify a single file as a mountpoint.
>
> And you know what? You can open the original file before you replace it
> by the FUSE "filesystem".
>
> So my fun interface is going to looks like this:
>
> $ qemu-img fuse foo.qcow2
>
> And then your foo.qcow2 is a raw image until the next "fusermount -u
> foo.qcow2"! Isn't that fun?
Yes, sounds fun. Until you realise that I'd actually like to merge
something like this when it exists. ;-)
For a more serious implementation, maybe it should even be a separate
qemu-fuse rather than a qemu-img subcommand.
Kevin
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-16 7:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-15 2:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Improve qemu-img dd Eric Blake
2018-08-15 2:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] qemu-img: Fix dd with skip= and count= Eric Blake
2018-08-16 2:03 ` Max Reitz
2018-08-16 2:17 ` Eric Blake
2018-08-16 2:19 ` Max Reitz
2018-08-15 2:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qemu-img: Add dd seek= option Eric Blake
2018-08-16 2:20 ` Max Reitz
2018-08-16 2:39 ` Eric Blake
2018-08-16 2:49 ` Eric Blake
2018-08-16 2:49 ` Max Reitz
2018-08-16 2:57 ` Eric Blake
2018-08-16 3:00 ` Max Reitz
2018-08-16 7:15 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-08-17 19:22 ` Max Reitz
2018-08-20 2:07 ` Fam Zheng
2018-08-20 12:20 ` Max Reitz
2018-08-16 2:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Improve qemu-img dd Eric Blake
2018-08-16 2:12 ` Eric Blake
2018-08-16 19:39 ` no-reply
2018-08-16 20:00 ` no-reply
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