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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
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	Denis Lunev <den@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/18] block: introduce new filter driver: fleecing-hook
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 17:52:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181005155213.GB4606@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46e224bd-8c1f-4565-944e-52440e85e2f0@virtuozzo.com>

Hi Vladimir,

can you please check your mailer settings? The plain text version of the
emails is hardly legible because it mixes quotes text and replies. I
had to manually open the HTML part to figure out what you really wrote.

Am 05.10.2018 um 17:00 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
> Hmm, how to share children?
> 
> backup job has two source BdrvChild'ren - child_job and child_root of
> job blk and two target BdrvChild'ren - again, child_job and
> child_root.
> 
> backup_top has source child - child_backing and second - child_file
> (named "target")..

Right, these are six BdrvChild instances in total. I think we can ignore
the child_job ones, they are internal to the block job infrastructure,
so we have four of them left.

> Which BdrvChild'ren you suggest to remove? They are all different.

Now that you introduced backup_top, I think we don't need any
BlockBackends any more. So I suggest to remove the child_root ones and
to do all I/O through the child_backing and child_file ones of
backup_top.

> I don't know, why job needs both unnamed blk's and child_job's, and I
> don't know is it necessary for backup to use blk's not BdrvChild'ren..

I think we had a case recently where it turned out that it is strictly
speaking even wrong for jobs to use BlockBackends in a function that
intercepts a request on the BDS level (like the copy-before-write of
backup).

So getting rid of the BlockBackends isn't only okay, but actually a good
thing by itself.

> And with internal way in none-mode we'll have two unused blk's  and
> four unused BdrvChild'ren.. Or we want to rewrite backup to use
> BdrvChild'ren for io operations and drop child_job BdrvChild'ren? So
> I'm lost. What did you mean?

child_job isn't actually unused, even though you never use them to make
requests. The child_job BdrvChild is important because of the
BdrvChildRole callbacks it provides to the block job infrastructure.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-05 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-01 10:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/18] fleecing-hook driver for backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/18] block/dirty-bitmap: allow set/reset bits in disabled bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 14:23   ` Eric Blake
2018-10-03 14:50     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/18] block/io: allow BDRV_REQ_SERIALISING for read Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/18] block/backup: simplify backup_incremental_init_copy_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/18] block/backup: move from HBitmap to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/18] util/id: add block-bitmap subsystem Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/18] block/backup: give a name to copy-bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/18] block/backup: allow use existent copy-bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/18] block: allow serialized reads to intersect Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/18] block: improve should_update_child Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/18] iotests: handle -f argument correctly for qemu_io_silent Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/18] iotests: allow resume_drive by node name Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 12/18] iotests: prepare 055 to graph changes during backup job Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/18] block: introduce new filter driver: fleecing-hook Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-04 12:44   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-04 13:59     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-04 14:52       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-04 21:19         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-05 15:00           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-05 15:52             ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2018-10-05 16:40               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-05 16:47                 ` Eric Blake
2018-10-05 18:31                   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 14/18] block/fleecing-hook: internal api Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-04 12:50   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 15/18] qapi: add x-drop-fleecing qmp command Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 16/18] iotests: test new fleecing-hook driver in context of 222 iotest Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 17/18] block/backup: tiny refactor backup_job_create Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-01 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 18/18] block/backup: use fleecing-hook instead of write notifiers Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 18:46   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-02 20:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/18] fleecing-hook driver for backup Eric Blake
2018-10-03  9:55   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 15:36   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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