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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: dhildenb@redhat.com, imammedo@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/5] virtio-balloon: Remove unnecessary MADV_WILLNEED on deflate
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:05:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181012140306-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181012032431.32693-2-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 02:24:27PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> When the balloon is inflated, we discard memory place in it using madvise()
> with MADV_DONTNEED.  And when we deflate it we use MADV_WILLNEED, which
> sounds like it makes sense but is actually unnecessary.
> 
> The misleadingly named MADV_DONTNEED just discards the memory in question,
> it doesn't set any persistent state on it in-kernel; all that's necessary
> to bring the memory back is to touch it.  MADV_WILLNEED in contrast
> specifically says that the memory will be used soon and faults it in.
> 
> Memory that's being given back to the guest by deflating the balloon
> *might* be used soon, but it equally could just sit around in the guest's
> pools until it actually needs it.  And, over the general timescale that
> memory ballooning operates, it seems unlikely that one extra fault for the
> guest will be a vast performance issue.

Thinking about it, it might be for RT guests.

So I suspect if you want to drop MADV_WILLNEED you need a flag
telling qemu that's not the usecase.




> So, simplify the balloon's operation by dropping the madvise() on deflate.
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> ---
>  hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 5 ++---
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
> index 1728e4f83a..6ec4bcf4e1 100644
> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
> @@ -35,9 +35,8 @@
>  
>  static void balloon_page(void *addr, int deflate)
>  {
> -    if (!qemu_balloon_is_inhibited()) {
> -        qemu_madvise(addr, BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE,
> -                deflate ? QEMU_MADV_WILLNEED : QEMU_MADV_DONTNEED);
> +    if (!qemu_balloon_is_inhibited() && !deflate) {
> +        qemu_madvise(addr, BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE, QEMU_MADV_DONTNEED);
>      }
>  }
>  
> -- 
> 2.17.1

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-12 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-12  3:24 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] Improve balloon handling of pagesizes other than 4kiB David Gibson
2018-10-12  3:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/5] virtio-balloon: Remove unnecessary MADV_WILLNEED on deflate David Gibson
2018-10-12  7:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-13  6:26     ` David Gibson
2018-10-12 17:41   ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-12 17:59     ` Eric Blake
2018-10-13  6:23     ` David Gibson
2018-10-12 18:05   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-10-15  6:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-15 10:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-15 11:14         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-04  4:26         ` David Gibson
2018-10-12  3:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/5] virtio-balloon: Corrections to address verification David Gibson
2018-10-12  7:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-13  6:25     ` David Gibson
2018-10-12  3:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/5] virtio-balloon: Rework ballon_page() interface David Gibson
2018-10-12  7:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-13  6:29     ` David Gibson
2018-10-12  3:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/5] virtio-balloon: Use ram_block_discard_range() instead of raw madvise() David Gibson
2018-10-12  3:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/5] virtio-balloon: Safely handle BALLOON_PAGE_SIZE < host page size David Gibson
2018-10-12  8:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-13  6:40     ` David Gibson
2018-10-15  7:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-17  3:28         ` David Gibson
2018-10-17  9:56           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-23  8:02             ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-12  8:32   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-13  6:41     ` David Gibson
2018-10-12 17:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] Improve balloon handling of pagesizes other than 4kiB Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-17  3:31   ` David Gibson

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