From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Caio Carrara" <ccarrara@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Laine Stump" <laine@redhat.com>,
"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:32:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181017112522-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181017151004.GY31060@habkost.net>
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:10:04PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:22:37AM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:54:35PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > This patch adds separate device types for each of those virtio
> > > device flavors:
> > >
> > > - virtio-*-pci: the existing multi-purpose device types
> > > - Configurable using `disable-legacy` and `disable-modern`
> > > properties
> > > - Legacy driver support is automatically enabled/disabled
> > > depending on the bus where it is plugged
> > > - Supports Conventional PCI and PCI Express buses
> > > (but Conventional PCI is incompatible with
> > > disable-legacy=off)
> > > - Changes PCI vendor/device IDs at runtime
> > > - virtio-*-pci-0.9: legacy virtio device
> > > - Supports Conventional PCI buses only, because
> > > it has a PIO BAR
> > > - virtio-*-pci-1.0-transitional: virtio-1.0 device supporting legacy drivers
> > > - Supports Conventional PCI buses only, because
> > > it has a PIO BAR
> > > - virtio-*-pci-1.0: modern-only
> > > - Supports both Conventional PCI and PCI Express buses
> >
> > If new device types are being created, is it time to decouple the VIRTIO
> > PCI transport from the actual VIRTIO device (blk, net, scsi) like we
> > already have with virtio-mmio?
> >
> > -device virtio-pci-1.0,id=virtio-pci-0
> > -device virtio-blk,bus=virtio-pci-0,drive=drive0,serial=mydisk
> >
> > That way we avoid lots of boilerplate code and an explosion of new
> > device types.
>
> I don't think that would work. This would in turn make
> virtio-pci-1.0 a chameleon device that changes PCI ID depending
> on the backend device plugged to it.
>
> Also, PCI IDs are not the only information contained inside the
> virtio-pci subclasses. See all the PCI-specific +
> device-type-specific knowledge encoded inside the class_init and
> instance_init functions of each virtio-pci subclass.
I think we need to draw the line somewhere. We can't make new
classes and bother users each time there is a behaviour
change in the device.
But I also think the transport/device split it also an internal virtio
thing, no one who has not read the spec cares about it.
> --
> Eduardo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-17 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-13 2:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-14 21:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-15 18:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-16 8:39 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-10-16 13:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-16 15:51 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-10-16 17:02 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-10-16 19:12 ` Laine Stump
2018-10-17 5:57 ` [Qemu-devel] No more chameleon devices (was: [PATCH] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices) Markus Armbruster
2018-10-17 6:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-10-17 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] No more chameleon devices Markus Armbruster
2018-10-17 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] No more chameleon devices (was: [PATCH] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices) Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-17 16:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-17 19:19 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] No more chameleon devices Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-10-18 14:15 ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-18 14:38 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-10-18 14:41 ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-18 14:45 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-10-18 14:48 ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-18 15:39 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-10-18 18:07 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-17 10:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices Andrea Bolognani
2018-10-17 15:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-17 15:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-17 15:57 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 10:25 ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-10-18 10:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-14 18:20 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-15 8:16 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-10-15 10:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-15 23:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-16 6:48 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-10-16 13:39 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-16 18:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-10-17 5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] "no-user" for properties (was: [PATCH] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices) Markus Armbruster
2018-10-15 9:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices Cornelia Huck
2018-10-15 23:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-17 9:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-10-17 15:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-17 15:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
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