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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	mtosatti@redhat.com,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 16:58:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181102165807.GG21191@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eSSe2ZBQrAsyLDfOSiWydXhphcj6xe0x1yZ8Dg_yXnpUQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 09:44:54AM -0700, Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> 
> >>> Therefore, I don't think that we want this versioning to be based on KVM_CAP at all.
> >>> It seems that we would want the process to behave as follows:
> >>> 1) Mgmt-layer at dest queries dest host max supported nested_state size.
> >>>   (Which should be returned from kvm_check_extension(KVM_CAP_NESTED_STATE))
> >>> 2) Mgmt-layer at source initiate migration to dest with requesting QEMU to send nested_state
> >>>   matching dest max supported nested_state size.
> >>>   When saving nested state using KVM_GET_NESTED_STATE IOCTL, QEMU will specify in nested_state->size
> >>>   the *requested* size to be saved and KVM should be able to save only the information which matches
> >>>   the version that worked with that size.
> >>> 3) After some sanity checks on received migration stream, dest host use KVM_SET_NESTED_STATE IOCTL.
> >>>   This IOCTL should deduce which information it should deploy based on given nested_state->size.
> 
> I have to object to any proposal which requires the management later
> to communicate with the source and the destination to determine what
> should be done.

Can you elaborate on why you object ?

There are a bunch of features in QEMU's migration code which require
the mgmt layer to look at source + dest to determine what should be
done. Admittedly the cases we have had so far are generic migration
features (compression, multifd, postcopy, TLS, etc), while this is
a host kernel feature. I don't think it is that far outside the
normal practice wrt migration feature usage decision making though.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-02 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-16 12:46 [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state Liran Alon
2018-09-16 12:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 1/2] i386: Compile CPUX86State xsave_buf only when support KVM or HVF Liran Alon
2018-09-16 12:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 2/2] KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state Liran Alon
2018-10-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: " Liran Alon
2018-10-15 18:10   ` Liran Alon
2018-10-31  1:03     ` Liran Alon
2018-10-31 18:17       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-31 18:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-31 18:50           ` Liran Alon
2018-10-31 18:59             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-31 23:17               ` Liran Alon
2018-11-01 13:10                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 15:23                   ` Liran Alon
2018-11-01 15:56                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 16:45                       ` Jim Mattson
2018-11-02  3:46                         ` Liran Alon
2018-11-02  9:40                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-02 12:35                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-02 12:40                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-04 22:12                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-02 12:59                             ` Liran Alon
2018-11-02 16:44                               ` Jim Mattson
2018-11-02 16:58                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2018-11-02 17:01                                   ` Jim Mattson
2018-11-02 16:54                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-02 16:58                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-04 22:19                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-12 16:18                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-12 16:50                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-12 16:53                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-12 16:54                                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-13  0:00                                       ` Liran Alon
2018-11-13  0:07                                         ` Jim Mattson
2018-11-13  0:09                                           ` Liran Alon
2018-11-12 23:58                                     ` Liran Alon
2018-11-02 16:39                           ` Jim Mattson
2018-11-03  2:02                             ` Liran Alon
2018-11-08  0:13                               ` Liran Alon
2018-11-08  0:45                                 ` Jim Mattson
2018-11-08  9:50                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08  9:57                                     ` Liran Alon
2018-11-08 17:02                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 18:41                                         ` Liran Alon
2018-11-08 20:34                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-12 14:51                                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 19:03                       ` Liran Alon
2018-11-01 19:07                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 19:41                           ` Jim Mattson

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