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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Li Zhijian <zhijianx.li@intel.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Li Zhijian <lizhijian@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Philip Li <philip.li@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PoC PATCH 1/3] i386: set initrd_max to 4G - 1 to allow up to 4G initrd
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:19:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181112061940.GA61749@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fcf1d6b5-e64f-3aea-f794-99237e1988cf@zytor.com>


* H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> > Such an extended header could use a more modern (self-extending) ABI as 
> > well.
> 
> Yes, although I don't really think it is as much of an issue as it seems at
> this point.
> 
> The limit comes from having used a one-byte jump instruction at the beginning;
> however, these days that limit is functionally walled.
> 
> It is of course possible to address this if it should become necessary,
> however, the current protocol has lasted for 23 years so far and we haven't
> run out yet, even with occasional missteps. As such, I don't think we are in a
> huge hurry to address this particular aspect.

Agreed, fair enough!

> In part as a result of this exchange I have spent some time thinking 
> about the boot protocol and its dependencies, and there is, in fact, a 
> much more serious problem that needs to be addressed: it is not 
> currently possible in a forward-compatible way to map all data areas 
> that may be occupied by bootloader-provided data. The kernel proper has 
> an advantage here, in that the kernel will by definition always be the 
> "owner of the protocol" (anything the kernel doesn't know how to map 
> won't be used by the kernel anyway), but it really isn't a good 
> situation. So I'm currently trying to think up a way to make that 
> possible.

I might be a bit dense early in the morning, but could you elaborate? 
What do you mean by mapping all data areas?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-12  6:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-08 10:59 [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PoC PATCH 0/3] support initrd size up to 4G Li Zhijian
2018-11-08 10:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PoC PATCH 1/3] i386: set initrd_max to 4G - 1 to allow up to 4G initrd Li Zhijian
2018-11-08 10:59   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PoC PATCH 2/3] change size type from int to int64_t on load_image() Li Zhijian
2018-11-08 10:59     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] change int len to uin32_t len Li Zhijian
2018-11-08 11:14       ` Peter Maydell
2018-11-08 11:04     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PoC PATCH 2/3] change size type from int to int64_t on load_image() Peter Maydell
2018-11-09  2:48       ` Li Zhijian
2018-11-08 11:06   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PoC PATCH 1/3] i386: set initrd_max to 4G - 1 to allow up to 4G initrd Peter Maydell
2018-11-09  1:47     ` Li Zhijian
2018-11-09  7:20       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-09  9:57         ` Li Zhijian
2018-11-09 10:04           ` Juergen Gross
2018-11-09 13:11             ` Li Zhijian
2018-11-09 13:40             ` Li Zhijian
2018-11-09 21:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-12  4:56                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-12  6:00                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-12  6:19                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2018-11-12  6:36                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-12 16:47                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-08 20:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PoC PATCH 0/3] support initrd size up to 4G Wainer dos Santos Moschetta

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