From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40829) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMZBM-0007iX-80 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:56:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMZBI-0003gx-2Y for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:56:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:51:16 +0100 From: Kevin Wolf Message-ID: <20181113135116.GE4830@localhost.localdomain> References: <20181109221213.7310-1-crosa@redhat.com> <20181112104953.GB11580@linux.fritz.box> <20181112160025.GE11580@linux.fritz.box> <20181113121836.GC4830@localhost.localdomain> <20181113132653.GG12503@habkost.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181113132653.GG12503@habkost.net> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] Acceptance tests for qemu-img List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Eduardo Habkost Cc: Cleber Rosa , qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Max Reitz , Wainer dos Santos Moschetta , Caio Carrara , Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathieu-Daud=E9?= Am 13.11.2018 um 14:26 hat Eduardo Habkost geschrieben: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 01:18:36PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote: > [...] > > Anyway, one specific concern about the "simple way" I have is that we're > > adding a hard dependency on an external package (Avocado) that isn't > > usually installed anyway on developer machines. Maintainers will of > > course just install it. But will this reduce the amount of tests that > > contributors run, and increase the amount of untested patches on the > > mailing list? > > > > Maybe we can keep a simple in-tree runner like ./check that doesn't have > > any external dependencies and runs all of those tests that don't make > > use of Avocado utility functions etc.? And you'd use Avocado when you > > want to run all tests or use advanced test harness options. > > What problems you are trying to address here, exactly? > > If you don't have Avocado installed in your system, all you need > is Python 3, an internet connection, and the ability to type > "make check-acceptance" on your keyboard. Thanks, didn't know that one. Apparently you don't only need to have Python 3 available on the system, but also explicitly use it for ./configure? $ LANG=C make check-acceptance /home/kwolf/source/qemu/tests/Makefile.include:930: *** "venv directory for tests requires Python 3". Stop. While this doesn't make the tests available automatically for everyone, we'll get there when we finally make Python 3 the default (hopefully soon), which is already a lot better than what docs/devel/testing.rst promises: These tests are written using the Avocado Testing Framework (which must be installed separately) [...] Maybe time to update the docs to match the improved situation? :-) Kevin