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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Amit Shah" <amit@kernel.org>,
	"Andrea Bolognani" <abologna@redhat.com>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Laine Stump" <laine@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Caio Carrara" <ccarrara@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 v2] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:52:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181120115227.41ad1f88.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181120004454.GA4755@habkost.net>

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:44:54 -0200
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:50:56AM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:05:59 +0000
> > Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:

> > > If libvirt did this compatibility approach, can you
> > > confirm this would be live migration state compatible.
> > > 
> > > ie can live migrate virtio-*-pci -> virtio-*-pci-transitional,
> > > provided only PCI bus was used.  
> > 
> > It also needs to make sure that neither disable-legacy nor
> > disable-modern is set. Then this would have a compatible state AFAICS.
> >   
> > >   
> > > > - virtio-*-pci-non-transitional: modern-only
> > > >   - Supports both Conventional PCI and PCI Express buses    
> > > 
> > > IIUC, libvirt can again provide compatibility with old
> > > QEMU by simply using the existing device type and setting
> > > disable-legacy ?  Can you confirm this would be live
> > > migration compatible
> > > 
> > >   virtio-*-pci + disable-legacy -> virtio-*pci-non-transitional  
> > 
> > I think yes.  
> 
> This is exactly how it is implemented internally, but I'm not
> promising that this will be kept compatible forever.  And I
> wouldn't like to make that promise unless there's an important
> use case for that.

Shouldn't we be able to ensure compatibility by normal virtio feature
bit handling, as we have already done in the past?

> 
> We could easily ensure it will be compatible in pc-4.0 and older,
> though.  Would that be enough for the use case we have in mind?
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-20 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-14 23:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 v2] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-15  8:40 ` no-reply
2018-11-15 10:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-15 10:50   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-15 10:52     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-20  0:44     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-20 10:46       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-20 10:52       ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-11-20 11:51         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-15 11:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-15 15:01   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27  0:35   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-15 16:29 ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-11-16  3:45   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-19 10:41     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 18:07       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-19 18:32         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 18:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-19 18:56             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 19:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20 12:27                 ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-11-20 19:14                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 16:20                     ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-11-19 21:32               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-20 10:35                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 21:47         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-20  3:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20  3:22             ` Eduardo Habkost

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