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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhaosl@gmail.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 20/24] hw: acpi: Define ACPI tables builder interface
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:08:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181127150808.1c719882@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121235721.GE4450@caravaggio>

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:57:21 +0100
Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 05:02:26PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Mon,  5 Nov 2018 02:40:43 +0100
> > Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > In order to decouple ACPI APIs from specific machine types, we are
> > > creating an ACPI builder interface that each ACPI platform can choose to
> > > implement.
> > > This way, a new machine type can re-use the high level ACPI APIs and
> > > define some custom table build methods, without having to duplicate most
> > > of the existing implementation only to add small variations to it.  
> > I'm not sure about motivation behind so high APIs,
> > what obvious here is an extra level of indirection for not clear gain.
> > 
> > Yep using table callbacks, one can attempt to generalize
> > acpi_setup() and help boards to decide which tables do not build
> > (MCFG comes to the mind). But I'm not convinced that acpi_setup()
> > could be cleanly generalized as a whole (probably some parts but
> > not everything)  
> It's more about generalizing acpi_build(), and then having one
> acpi_setup for non hardware-reduced ACPI and a acpi_reduced_setup() for
> hardware-reduced.
> 
> Right now there's no generalization at all but with this patch we could
> already use the same acpi_reduced_setup() implementation for both arm
> and i386/virt.
> 
> > so it's minor benefit for extra headache of
> > figuring out what callback will be actually called when reading code.  
> This is the same complexity that already exists for essentially all
> current interfaces.
in case of callback vs plain function call, I'd choose the later
if it does the job and resort to the former when I have to.
 
> > However if board needs a slightly different table, it will have to
> > duplicate an exiting one and then modify to suit its needs.
> > 
> > to me it pretty much looks the same as calling build_foo()
> > we use now but with an extra indirection level and then
> > duplicating the later for usage in another board in slightly
> > different manner.  
> I believe what you're trying to say is that this abstraction may be
> useful but you're arguing the granularity is not properly defined? Am I
> getting this right?
yep, something along those lines. So far it's not useful much if at all.
So I'll not introduce it for now and try to get by with plain functions
calls. Later we might add fine-grained callbacks on case by case basis
(like 'adevc->madt_cpu') where it's possible to generalize.
 
> Cheers,
> Samuel.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-05  1:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/24] ACPI reorganization for hardware-reduced API addition Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/24] hw: i386: Decouple the ACPI build from the PC machine type Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 14:23   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:42     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-22 15:13       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/24] hw: acpi: Export ACPI build alignment API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 14:27   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:42     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/24] hw: acpi: The RSDP build API can return void Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-06 10:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-06 10:43     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:24   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/24] hw: acpi: Export the RSDP build API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/24] hw: acpi: Implement XSDT support for RSDP Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:16   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-08 14:36     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:53     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 18:27     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20  8:23       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:42     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-22 16:26       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-23  9:36         ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/24] hw: acpi: Factorize the RSDP build API implementation Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/24] hw: acpi: Generalize AML build routines Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 13:37   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 15:00     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/24] hw: acpi: Factorize _OSC AML across architectures Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/24] hw: i386: Move PCI host definitions to pci_host.h Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 14:30   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/24] hw: acpi: Export the PCI host and holes getters Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-13 15:59   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 15:43     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-23 10:55       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/24] hw: acpi: Export and generalize the PCI host AML API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-14 10:55   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:12     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-23 11:04       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/24] hw: acpi: Export the MCFG getter Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-15 12:36   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:21     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-27 13:54       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/24] hw: acpi: Do not create hotplug method when handler is not defined Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09  9:12   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/24] hw: i386: Make the hotpluggable memory size property more generic Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-15 12:49   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/24] hw: i386: Export the i386 ACPI SRAT build method Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-15 13:28   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:27     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-26 15:47       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/24] hw: acpi: Fix memory hotplug AML generation error Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:23   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-01-14 18:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 17/24] hw: acpi: Export the PCI hotplug API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 18/24] hw: i386: Export the MADT build method Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16  9:27   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 19/24] hw: acpi: Retrieve the PCI bus from AcpiPciHpState Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16  9:39   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 19:42     ` Boeuf, Sebastien
2018-11-19 15:37       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 18:02         ` Boeuf, Sebastien
2018-11-20  8:26           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 20/24] hw: acpi: Define ACPI tables builder interface Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16 16:02   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:57     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-27 14:08       ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 21/24] hw: i386: Implement the ACPI builder interface for PC Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 22/24] hw: pci-host: piix: Return PCI host pointer instead of PCI bus Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16 11:09   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 23/24] hw: i386: Set ACPI configuration PCI host pointer Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 24/24] hw: i386: Refactor PCI host getter Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16 16:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/24] ACPI reorganization for hardware-reduced API addition Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 16:37   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-19 15:31     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 17:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-19 18:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20 21:35           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-20 12:57         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-20 21:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-21 12:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 13:50         ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 13:57           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 14:15         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:38           ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-22 10:39             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-22  0:17           ` Samuel Ortiz

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