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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] vfio-ap: flag as compatible with balloon
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:48:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181206134842.6fbfe6d3.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181206133239.5e5b5cb3@oc2783563651>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:32:39 +0100
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 09:28:34 +0100
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 05.12.18 18:25, Christian Borntraeger wrote:  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 05.12.2018 17:45, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
> > >> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:38:22 +0100
> > >> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>  
> > >>> On 05.12.18 15:51, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
> > >>>> vfio-ap devices do not pin any pages in the host. Therefore, they
> > >>>> are belived to be compatible with memory ballooning.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Flag them as compatible, so both vfio-ap and a balloon can be
> > >>>> used simultaneously.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Signed-off-by: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> > >>>> ---
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As briefly discussed on IRC. RFC as I do not have easy access to
> > >>>> hardware I can test this with.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ---
> > >>>>  hw/vfio/ap.c | 8 ++++++++
> > >>>>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> diff --git a/hw/vfio/ap.c b/hw/vfio/ap.c
> > >>>> index 65de952f44..3bf48eed28 100644
> > >>>> --- a/hw/vfio/ap.c
> > >>>> +++ b/hw/vfio/ap.c
> > >>>> @@ -104,6 +104,14 @@ static void vfio_ap_realize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp)
> > >>>>      vapdev->vdev.name = g_strdup_printf("%s", mdevid);
> > >>>>      vapdev->vdev.dev = dev;
> > >>>>  
> > >>>> +    /*
> > >>>> +     * vfio-ap devices are believed to operate in a way compatible with
> > >>>> +     * memory ballooning, as no pages are pinned in the host.
> > >>>> +     * This needs to be set before vfio_get_device() for vfio common to
> > >>>> +     * handle the balloon inhibitor.
> > >>>> +     */
> > >>>> +    vapdev->vdev.balloon_allowed = true;
> > >>>> +
> > >>>>      ret = vfio_get_device(vfio_group, mdevid, &vapdev->vdev, &local_err);
> > >>>>      if (ret) {
> > >>>>          goto out_get_dev_err;
> > >>>>     
> > >>>
> > >>> What happens if this ever changes? Shouldn't we have an API to at least
> > >>> check what the vfio device can guarantee?
> > >>>
> > >>> "are believed to operate" doesn't sound like guarantees to me :)  
> > > 
> > > I would actually remove that comment or fix it. We either know or we dont.
> > > In the way vfio-works I see no reason to disallow balloon. Even if the guest does
> > > something wrong (e.g. crypto I/O on freed pages) the host would handle that the
> > > same as it would for normal page accesses. From a host point of view the crypto
> > > instructions are just CISC instructions with load/store semantics.  
> > 
> > As long as vfio-ap does not and will never pin pages (and keep them
> > pinned), we are fine. I don't know about the details, but if vfio-ap
> > really just issues a synchronous instruction for us, we are fine.
> >   
> 
> I agree with Christian. That comment is best removed.

What about s/believed to operate/operate/?

The second part of the comment is still useful, I believe.

> 
> @Tony, I guess you should have the most elaborate test setup. Can you give
> this some testing just in case?

Actual testing would be great :)

> 
> > >   
> > >>
> > >> It's the same for ccw :)  
> 
> As a matter of fact, I don't like that comment.

Do you have a suggestion for rewording it?

> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 
> > >>
> > >> While such an API definitely sounds like a good idea, it is probably
> > >> overkill to introduce it for this case (do we envision changing the way
> > >> vfio-ap operates in the future to make that statement non-true?)  
> > > 
> > > agreed.   
> > >>  
> > >   
> > 
> >   
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-06 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-05 14:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] vfio-ap: flag as compatible with balloon Cornelia Huck
2018-12-05 16:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-05 16:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-05 16:45   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-05 17:25     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-06  8:28       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-06 12:32         ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-06 12:48           ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-12-06 20:51             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-12-06 23:01 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-12-07 12:17 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-07 12:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 12:32     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-07 12:38       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 12:52     ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 13:17       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 14:04         ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 15:00           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 15:05 ` Cornelia Huck

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