From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] vfio-ap: flag as compatible with balloon
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:48:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181206134842.6fbfe6d3.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181206133239.5e5b5cb3@oc2783563651>
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:32:39 +0100
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 09:28:34 +0100
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On 05.12.18 18:25, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05.12.2018 17:45, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:38:22 +0100
> > >> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 05.12.18 15:51, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > >>>> vfio-ap devices do not pin any pages in the host. Therefore, they
> > >>>> are belived to be compatible with memory ballooning.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Flag them as compatible, so both vfio-ap and a balloon can be
> > >>>> used simultaneously.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Signed-off-by: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> > >>>> ---
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As briefly discussed on IRC. RFC as I do not have easy access to
> > >>>> hardware I can test this with.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ---
> > >>>> hw/vfio/ap.c | 8 ++++++++
> > >>>> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> diff --git a/hw/vfio/ap.c b/hw/vfio/ap.c
> > >>>> index 65de952f44..3bf48eed28 100644
> > >>>> --- a/hw/vfio/ap.c
> > >>>> +++ b/hw/vfio/ap.c
> > >>>> @@ -104,6 +104,14 @@ static void vfio_ap_realize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp)
> > >>>> vapdev->vdev.name = g_strdup_printf("%s", mdevid);
> > >>>> vapdev->vdev.dev = dev;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> + /*
> > >>>> + * vfio-ap devices are believed to operate in a way compatible with
> > >>>> + * memory ballooning, as no pages are pinned in the host.
> > >>>> + * This needs to be set before vfio_get_device() for vfio common to
> > >>>> + * handle the balloon inhibitor.
> > >>>> + */
> > >>>> + vapdev->vdev.balloon_allowed = true;
> > >>>> +
> > >>>> ret = vfio_get_device(vfio_group, mdevid, &vapdev->vdev, &local_err);
> > >>>> if (ret) {
> > >>>> goto out_get_dev_err;
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> What happens if this ever changes? Shouldn't we have an API to at least
> > >>> check what the vfio device can guarantee?
> > >>>
> > >>> "are believed to operate" doesn't sound like guarantees to me :)
> > >
> > > I would actually remove that comment or fix it. We either know or we dont.
> > > In the way vfio-works I see no reason to disallow balloon. Even if the guest does
> > > something wrong (e.g. crypto I/O on freed pages) the host would handle that the
> > > same as it would for normal page accesses. From a host point of view the crypto
> > > instructions are just CISC instructions with load/store semantics.
> >
> > As long as vfio-ap does not and will never pin pages (and keep them
> > pinned), we are fine. I don't know about the details, but if vfio-ap
> > really just issues a synchronous instruction for us, we are fine.
> >
>
> I agree with Christian. That comment is best removed.
What about s/believed to operate/operate/?
The second part of the comment is still useful, I believe.
>
> @Tony, I guess you should have the most elaborate test setup. Can you give
> this some testing just in case?
Actual testing would be great :)
>
> > >
> > >>
> > >> It's the same for ccw :)
>
> As a matter of fact, I don't like that comment.
Do you have a suggestion for rewording it?
>
> Regards,
> Halil
>
> > >>
> > >> While such an API definitely sounds like a good idea, it is probably
> > >> overkill to introduce it for this case (do we envision changing the way
> > >> vfio-ap operates in the future to make that statement non-true?)
> > >
> > > agreed.
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-06 12:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-05 14:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] vfio-ap: flag as compatible with balloon Cornelia Huck
2018-12-05 16:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-05 16:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-05 16:45 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-05 17:25 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-06 8:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-06 12:32 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-06 12:48 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-12-06 20:51 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-12-06 23:01 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-12-07 12:17 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-07 12:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 12:32 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-12-07 12:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 12:52 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 13:17 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 14:04 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 15:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 15:05 ` Cornelia Huck
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