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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, "Jason J . Herne" <jjherne@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 10:34:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181207103441.70b6a527.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c88b304-aced-8330-a750-0765e0bd721a@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 12:50:50 -0500
Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 12/06/2018 11:21 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:26:12 -0500
> > Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 12/06/2018 09:39 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
> >>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:34:11 -0500
> >>> Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>> On 12/05/2018 07:54 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
> >>>>>> Yeah, that is perfectly clear, but it ain't the complete story. E.g.
> >>>>>> are subsequent commands blocking until the preceding command finishes
> >>>>>> is part of the interface. And what is good implementation depends on the
> >>>>>> answer. What I mean, I first need to understand how things are supposed
> >>>>>> to work (together) so I can double check that against the
> >>>>>> implementation. Otherwise all I can do is nitpicking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To get more tangible: we are in the middle of processing an SSCH request
> >>>>>> (e.g. doing the translation) when a HSCH comes in. What should happen?
> >>>>>> Should we start processing HSCH after he instruction part of SSCH is
> >>>>>> done -- which currently includes translation? Or should we -EBUSY? Or do
> >>>>>> we abort START related activities and do the HALT stuff?  
> >>>>> I think most of the sorting-out-the-operations stuff should be done by
> >>>>> the hardware itself, and we should not really try to enforce anything
> >>>>> special in our vfio code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For your example, it might be best if a hsch is always accepted and
> >>>>> send on towards the hardware. Probably best to reflect back -EAGAIN if
> >>>>> we're currently processing another instruction from another vcpu, so
> >>>>> that the user space caller can retry. Same for ssch, if another ssch is
> >>>>> already being processed. We*could*  reflect cc 2 if the fctl bit is
> >>>>> already set, but that won't do for csch, so it is probably best to have
> >>>>> the hardware figure that out in any case.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I read the code correctly, we currently reflect -EBUSY and not
> >>>>> -EAGAIN if we get a ssch request while already processing another one.
> >>>>> QEMU hands that back to the guest as a cc 2, which is not 100% correct.
> >>>>> In practice, we don't see this with Linux guests due to locking.
> >>>>>         
> >>>>
> >>>> If we have a ssch and a csch immediately afterwards from userspace, will
> >>>> we end up issuing csch first and then ssch to the hardware?
> >>>>
> >>>> If I understand correctly, the ccw translation as part of the ssch can
> >>>> be a slow operation so it might be possible we issue the csch first?
> >>>> In that case we won't actually clear the original start function as
> >>>> intended.  
> >>>
> >>> When we start processing the ssch request (translation and so on), we
> >>> set the state to BUSY. This means that any csch request will get a
> >>> -EBUSY, no overtaking possible. (I think maybe I'll need to check what
> >>> this series looks like if I rebase it on top of Pierre's rework, as he
> >>> did some changes in the state machine.)  
> >>
> >> I think you meant the state is set to BOXED? otherwise the patch 3 says
> >> if state is BUSY and CLEAR event request comes in, we issue the clear
> >> instruction, no?  
> > 
> > That's what I meant with "need to rebase" :) The BOXED state is gone; I
> > just had not rebased on top of it. There's more changes in the state
> > machine; if we are on the same page as to what should happen, I can
> > start massaging the patches.
> > 
> >   
> 
> Sorry maybe I missed it, but are you referring to Pierre's latest 
> cleanup patches? I don't see him removing the BOXED state.

The "remove BOXED state" patch is currently on my vfio-ccw-staging
branch. (That reminds me, will need to move it to my vfio-ccw branch
and possibly send a pull request. I had hoped to collect more patches
for the next release...)

> 
> I think returning -EAGAIN and asking the userspace to retry the 
> operation sounds reasonable to me.
> 
> But how do we handle the issue of protecting the cmd_region from 
> simultaneous hsch and csch calls? Do we agree on Pierre's method of 
> making write calls mutually exclusive?

That's in his patch series, right? I did not yet have time to look at
it...

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-07  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-22 16:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part) Cornelia Huck
2018-11-22 16:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] vfio-ccw: add capabilities chain Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 12:28   ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-23 12:45     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 13:26       ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-27 19:04   ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28  9:05     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-17 21:53   ` Eric Farman
2018-12-18 17:24     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-18 17:56       ` Eric Farman
2018-12-19 16:28       ` Alex Williamson
2018-12-21 11:12         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-22 16:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] s390/cio: export hsch to modules Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 12:30   ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-22 16:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] vfio-ccw: add handling for asnyc channel instructions Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 13:08   ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-26  9:47     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27 19:09   ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28  9:02     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 14:31       ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28 14:52         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 15:00           ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28 15:35             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 15:55               ` Farhan Ali
2019-01-18 13:53                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27 19:57   ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28  8:41     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 16:36   ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Halil Pasic
2018-11-29 16:52     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-29 17:24       ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-17 21:54   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2018-12-18 16:45     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-24 21:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] [PATCH 0/3] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part) Halil Pasic
2018-11-26  9:26   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-26 18:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Farhan Ali
2018-11-26 19:00   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-04 12:38 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-04 13:11   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-04 15:02     ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-05 12:54       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-05 18:34         ` Farhan Ali
2018-12-06 14:39           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-06 15:26             ` Farhan Ali
2018-12-06 16:21               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-06 17:50                 ` Farhan Ali
2018-12-07  9:34                   ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-12-06 18:47         ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 10:05           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 15:49             ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 16:54             ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-19 11:54               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-19 14:17                 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-21 11:23                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-21 12:42                     ` Halil Pasic

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