From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, "Jason J . Herne" <jjherne@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 10:34:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181207103441.70b6a527.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c88b304-aced-8330-a750-0765e0bd721a@linux.ibm.com>
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 12:50:50 -0500
Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> On 12/06/2018 11:21 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:26:12 -0500
> > Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/06/2018 09:39 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:34:11 -0500
> >>> Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/05/2018 07:54 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >>>>>> Yeah, that is perfectly clear, but it ain't the complete story. E.g.
> >>>>>> are subsequent commands blocking until the preceding command finishes
> >>>>>> is part of the interface. And what is good implementation depends on the
> >>>>>> answer. What I mean, I first need to understand how things are supposed
> >>>>>> to work (together) so I can double check that against the
> >>>>>> implementation. Otherwise all I can do is nitpicking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To get more tangible: we are in the middle of processing an SSCH request
> >>>>>> (e.g. doing the translation) when a HSCH comes in. What should happen?
> >>>>>> Should we start processing HSCH after he instruction part of SSCH is
> >>>>>> done -- which currently includes translation? Or should we -EBUSY? Or do
> >>>>>> we abort START related activities and do the HALT stuff?
> >>>>> I think most of the sorting-out-the-operations stuff should be done by
> >>>>> the hardware itself, and we should not really try to enforce anything
> >>>>> special in our vfio code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For your example, it might be best if a hsch is always accepted and
> >>>>> send on towards the hardware. Probably best to reflect back -EAGAIN if
> >>>>> we're currently processing another instruction from another vcpu, so
> >>>>> that the user space caller can retry. Same for ssch, if another ssch is
> >>>>> already being processed. We*could* reflect cc 2 if the fctl bit is
> >>>>> already set, but that won't do for csch, so it is probably best to have
> >>>>> the hardware figure that out in any case.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I read the code correctly, we currently reflect -EBUSY and not
> >>>>> -EAGAIN if we get a ssch request while already processing another one.
> >>>>> QEMU hands that back to the guest as a cc 2, which is not 100% correct.
> >>>>> In practice, we don't see this with Linux guests due to locking.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If we have a ssch and a csch immediately afterwards from userspace, will
> >>>> we end up issuing csch first and then ssch to the hardware?
> >>>>
> >>>> If I understand correctly, the ccw translation as part of the ssch can
> >>>> be a slow operation so it might be possible we issue the csch first?
> >>>> In that case we won't actually clear the original start function as
> >>>> intended.
> >>>
> >>> When we start processing the ssch request (translation and so on), we
> >>> set the state to BUSY. This means that any csch request will get a
> >>> -EBUSY, no overtaking possible. (I think maybe I'll need to check what
> >>> this series looks like if I rebase it on top of Pierre's rework, as he
> >>> did some changes in the state machine.)
> >>
> >> I think you meant the state is set to BOXED? otherwise the patch 3 says
> >> if state is BUSY and CLEAR event request comes in, we issue the clear
> >> instruction, no?
> >
> > That's what I meant with "need to rebase" :) The BOXED state is gone; I
> > just had not rebased on top of it. There's more changes in the state
> > machine; if we are on the same page as to what should happen, I can
> > start massaging the patches.
> >
> >
>
> Sorry maybe I missed it, but are you referring to Pierre's latest
> cleanup patches? I don't see him removing the BOXED state.
The "remove BOXED state" patch is currently on my vfio-ccw-staging
branch. (That reminds me, will need to move it to my vfio-ccw branch
and possibly send a pull request. I had hoped to collect more patches
for the next release...)
>
> I think returning -EAGAIN and asking the userspace to retry the
> operation sounds reasonable to me.
>
> But how do we handle the issue of protecting the cmd_region from
> simultaneous hsch and csch calls? Do we agree on Pierre's method of
> making write calls mutually exclusive?
That's in his patch series, right? I did not yet have time to look at
it...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-07 9:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-22 16:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part) Cornelia Huck
2018-11-22 16:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] vfio-ccw: add capabilities chain Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 12:28 ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-23 12:45 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 13:26 ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-27 19:04 ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28 9:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-17 21:53 ` Eric Farman
2018-12-18 17:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-18 17:56 ` Eric Farman
2018-12-19 16:28 ` Alex Williamson
2018-12-21 11:12 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-22 16:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] s390/cio: export hsch to modules Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 12:30 ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-22 16:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] vfio-ccw: add handling for asnyc channel instructions Cornelia Huck
2018-11-23 13:08 ` Pierre Morel
2018-11-26 9:47 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27 19:09 ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28 9:02 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 14:31 ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28 14:52 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 15:00 ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28 15:35 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 15:55 ` Farhan Ali
2019-01-18 13:53 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27 19:57 ` Farhan Ali
2018-11-28 8:41 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-28 16:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " Halil Pasic
2018-11-29 16:52 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-29 17:24 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-17 21:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2018-12-18 16:45 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-24 21:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] [PATCH 0/3] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part) Halil Pasic
2018-11-26 9:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-26 18:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Farhan Ali
2018-11-26 19:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-04 12:38 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-04 13:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-04 15:02 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-05 12:54 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-05 18:34 ` Farhan Ali
2018-12-06 14:39 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-06 15:26 ` Farhan Ali
2018-12-06 16:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-06 17:50 ` Farhan Ali
2018-12-07 9:34 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-12-06 18:47 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 10:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-07 15:49 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-07 16:54 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-19 11:54 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-19 14:17 ` Halil Pasic
2018-12-21 11:23 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-12-21 12:42 ` Halil Pasic
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